Should I use cotter pins here?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Should I use cotter pins here?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 01:18 pm:

The oil pan bolts have holes and castle nuts, so I assume it's correct to pin them. Is that right?





Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 01:20 pm:

That is correct, but a pain in the butt. I use lockwashers. Even though not correct, it makes installation and removal easier.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 01:29 pm:

I think it was changed to standard nuts and lock washers with the introduction of the 4-dip pan or there abouts.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R.V. Anderson on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 01:48 pm:

Though it makes a pain in the butt even more of a pain, use 7/64" cotter pins here and on the hogshead bolts. They fit the holes and slots a lot more closely and do a much better job of preventing loosening, and the oil leaks that always follow it. Get stainless ones and just spread the ends a little bit rather than a radical bend-over.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Gould on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 01:50 pm:

If you want to be absolutely authentic, bend both prongs in the same direction.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 02:09 pm:

I like to use Nylon nuts. The look like castle nuts without the slots.



Steve, the 1915 pan has flat edges. By about 1917 when they introduced the wide-nose pan the edge was rolled for more support. On my 1915 I have a set of 1927-1927 pan reinforcing brackets to help hold things together more securely.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Pawelek Brookshire, Texas on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 02:42 pm:

There was a discussion years back and some came up with even more cotter pins that are not on this list...:-)
CPL


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 08:04 pm:

Lockwashers for me. I can sleep at night knowing its much easier to remove the nuts if I have to.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 08:47 pm:

With lock washers, easier to snug up the ones you didn't get tight enough in the first place! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 08:55 pm:

I'm with Ken. To be absolutely original I believe both ends of the split pin are bent the same way, usually down, as if whacked with some kind of tool. There is no way that factory workers would have time to split the ends and bend each in opposite directions. Because they were bent the same way, they were necessarily short so the bend could be as sharp as possible.

Just my two bobs worth.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Matthew Atchinson on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 08:59 pm:

I just finished putting my 26 4-dip pan on after my rebuild I did on it. I used both lock washers below the castle nut, AND cotter pins. No such thing as too safe right?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 09:14 pm:

Id really hate to see all those bolts come out and lose the oil pan. Wouldnt it be easier to safety wire 2-3 at a time?? ws



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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Friday, June 21, 2013 - 10:09 pm:

Keith - I think they call those "Nyloc" nuts don't they? I like them too!


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