Given all the spam I got from my last "Wanted" ad in the classifieds I thought I'd try this here. Hope I don't get in too much trouble....
I bought an old Warford (aluminum case) last week and given the dirt cheap price I knew it wouldn't be perfect, but after disassembly I've decided that it must have spend a good 40 years full of water. The teeth on the cluster are terribly pitted, some are even rusted down to about half their original thickness. Any of you guys have some good suggestions on who to contact for good used parts? Surely someone has cannibalized a few of these over the years and has good useable parts left over.
Any leads would be greatly appreciated!
Nobody got any suggestions?
Try Bob Bergstadt at Bob's Antique Auto, Rockford, IL .
You may have to buy another junker or two and make one good one out of the group.
It sounds like a money pit to me from your description.
does the aluminum case use the same parts as the cast iron?
My rememberance is that the gears are the same. The pilot bearing between the input & output shaft has a bastard taper
and I probably have the last one in existence. I'm saving it for a future rebuild.
I would have any part you need or a different trany. the gears are not all the same between a aluminum and a cast trany.
Jim is this the bastard taper one you mentioned? in center
Daron I have parts I don't need if you can use them let me know, this is from a cast iron case take a look if the parts have # it can be used..
I am repairing mine too. My input shaft retaining nut got loose causing the trans to bind. It's missing that jamnut and lockwasher.
Thanks guys, I appreciate all the replies. I dropped my box of parts off at the local speed shop this afternoon to be hot tanked so that I can actually see what I have to work with. Then I should have a better idea of what parts I need to round up. And yes, it's probably nothing but a money pit, but it was cheap enough that I was willing to gamble. My main goal was to get a case so that I could go ahead and mock up the chassis and get the driveshaft cut down, so at the very least I've gained that much from it.
As for the oddball bearing between the input and output shafts, mine was so nasty that I didn't look at it very well. Is the race actually machined into the back of the input shaft or is it a replaceable race?
Rememberance;;; that's a difficult thing when I am getting ready for my 85th. Any way I believe that both races are made as an integral part of the shafts. If you are gunna cleanerup, take a good look at the shafts and see.
The gears on the counter shaft are pressed on and it's possible to replace a bad one. I think the cast iron gears were a little different ratio than the Aluminum case gears.
Hey Deron - I just installed a Warford in my speedster and wanted to hang on to my driveshaft and torque tube, in case I ended up hating the Warford. I love it now that I've driven it some.
Anyway, Texas T parts sells driveshafts for about $115 or so that are already cut down and machined and ready to install behind your Warford. Unless you are able to do the machining yourself or you have a buddy doing it for you, that's way cheaper than having a shop do it - plus you know it will be right the first time. They'll also cut down and weld up your torque tube for $125ish. That may not be worth it for you since it's pretty straightforward to cut out 12" off the torque tube and then weld it back.