Is this a 1924 wood framed coupe door?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Stinchcomb on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 03:02 pm:

I'm almost certain that this a wood framed door for a 1924 coupe. Can't tell what window regulator it has unless the handle position gives that away or some other clue. Can those more knowledgeable than me confirm this?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Stinchcomb on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 03:07 pm:

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Dave Sosnoski: If you're in MA, I'd like to come up and look at your cars. I'm in Trumbull, CT.

Cheers
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By john kuehn on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 04:17 pm:

Peel back some of the old upholstery material and you should be able to see the wood.
Also look at the very bottom of the door and if its wood you have a wood framed passenger side door.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe bell on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 05:10 pm:

Bill,
An old friend of mine that is gone now has a coupe with doors on it like that. His had a sheet metal trim on the outside edge? My fordor has wood all the way down on it. You can use them doors on the front of a fordor also, we came across a set like that on a restoration job with a friend so we used them, it was a lot easier than making all new door wood!! Joe


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Stinchcomb on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 06:41 pm:

For now all I have are some pictures. The seller wasn't sure. I'll ask him to check behind the upholstery and the door bottom.

Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Sosnoski on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 10:07 pm:

Rich,

I can't be 100% sure as the photos are not clear enough, but I think that is an all steel door. The reason is that the door latch is the 1925 style which was used on the steel door. Also, if you look at the upper left portion of the door where the upholstery is torn it looks like a metal strip under the upholstery. This was used on the all steel doors and the brown splotch in the middle of the white would be the glove fastener which was used to attach it to the door. The wood doors used a cardboard strip which was nailed to the wooden pillar.

He needs to pull back the upholstery and see what is under it. If there is a steel panel under the upholstery it is a steel door. He can also look at the very top of the door and at the hinge edge. If it is all steel it's a steel door. The wood on the wood framed door shows on the hinge side and the top and bottom. Also, the wood doors have four screws holding the vertical trim pieces around the window opening while the steel door only has 3.

I'll send you an email and we can set up a time to have you come up and see the cars. You are about 2 hours 10 minutes from me. I know because I grew up in Stratford.

Dave S.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rich Stinchcomb on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 11:09 pm:

Dave

I've just compared my 25 steel door to the metal skin of my wood framed door and see now that you are right. The detail I missed is the steel door has a metal edge along the top to pinch the door frame and a wood door has a right angle bend to take nails. The third picture down shows that top ridge. Correct me if I'm wrong but the top of the wood frame is even with the top of the door skin?

Also, what feature makes the door latch a '25? Is it the catch bar is centered?

Is this a catch for a wood framed '24 coupe door?

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Thanks for the feedback; I've got a lot to learn. Looking forward to seeing your cars.

Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Sosnoski on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 11:58 pm:

Hi Rich,

Yes - the top of the metal on the wood frame door just has a 90 degree bend for about 1/2 inch where it is nailed to the top wood.

Yes - that is the latch for the wood framed door. If you compare the piece that sticks out which actually holds the door closed with the photo above you can see the difference. The wood door one is narrower and made of solid steel. The later one is stamped and is much wider. The later one also seems to be centered more - hadn't noticed that before.

FYI there are two types of wood doors. The ones used on the Coupe have a vertical bead running the height of the door which is stamped into the door skin. The ones used on the Fordor do not have this bead. The door skin just does a 90 degree bend along the edge. There is a strip of "T" molding nailed along the edge of the door to give it that bead.

Dave S.


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