Successful trip and I learned something

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 05:49 pm:

We took the T on an errand today.
It was a hot day and we needed some information about something that was eating our plants at the local nursery and a few bottles of wine.
The nursery guy sold us some grub killer and we found that our favorite pee no more and cab wines at the NH Store were on sale This resulted in our packing the equivalent of 20 bottles of cab (ok it was 4 boxes) and 14 bottles of p-n-m (real bottles) in the back of the T for the ride home. We talked to some nice people at the nursery and NH store So It was a successful trip

Mean while I learned something - on the ride to the nursery etc the motor got a bit warm and the radiator pushed a bit of water out. ( I probably had too much in the radiator - someday I'll learn.) On the return I richened the mixture about a 1/4 turn and retarded the spark a little. The temp on the Motometer dropped to the center of the circle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 06:29 pm:

After all that wine you'll get a little warm too!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Michael Pawelek Brookshire, Texas on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 07:07 pm:

Fred, When I was half way through reading your post I was sure you were going to tell us you had to stop and pour some wine into the radiator! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 07:37 pm:

But did you find out what was eating a few bottle of wine?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Sunday, June 23, 2013 - 09:13 pm:

:-). Steve. I already know the answer to that :-)

Micheal. As I was entering the NH store I was thinking that if someone asked I'd them that I needed to get some alcohol to make the T run. As it was two guys on bicycles told me that I would have to move over when they wanted to pass me on the road.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Monday, June 24, 2013 - 01:32 am:

Fred,
You did two things and the engine ran cooler. The question is did one thing or both cause the engine to run cooler? In general if you run a littler richer mixture the engine will run cooler but if you retard the spark it will run hotter. In your case I bet the mixture adjustment over powered the timing adjustment. If you had left the timing were it was and adjusted the mixture, it may have ran even cooler.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Monday, June 24, 2013 - 02:54 am:

Aww Fred...

Just do what I do on those 'spirit' runs...(The Hack always does them for me :-) The trunk is full in the Runabout anyway...)

I always run my T's as lean as I can get away with and still have spunk...but already know my Hack doesn't like that. On long higher speed runs (it's all relative in a Hack, eh? Especially when that runabout doesn't even rattle and groan until over 50), it doesn't seem to care...but on the short ones...well it's been known to hiss on arrival and really get angry on the way home once you stop it in the garage. Yeah, I know, if I would just leave it a little richer all the time, eh?

But see, the radiator is a honeycomb...really looks nice but it also weeps all over the place and while not usual, sometimes it is a little low.

I came in the last time while it was doing its thing for all of 3 minutes, picked up the phone... and called Gery Bergbower..yeah...flat tube will work it's a bitsey anyway! 5 days later UPS man drops it off. My thought is...more capacity, but we'll see...I think it was just an excuse.

Only one problem...it looks so nice it just sits there as a garage decoration so I can watch it...figure it might go on some day...whats a little weep...and maybe 1/4 turn is not that much of an exception :-):-):-) Maybe I need to do experimental runs...it's less than a mile to the spirit shop, they always want to take pix of their other customers next to it anyway, but do I need to buy something each time...oh...heck yes :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Monday, June 24, 2013 - 09:48 am:

I am going to have to check out the timing when I have time.

I have a feeling that when the lever is fully up it is a bit too far retarded because when it starts (Crank)it barely runs until I advance it.

Then the car seems to run best when the handle is fully down.

George -- I think you need to do the experiments -
1. Go to the spirit shop
2. get bottle
3. return home
4. empty bottle (don't waste good booze)
5. repeat steps 1 thru 4 10 times
6. report results when you wake up!

If you need to save time - step 3 can be eliminated after the first time


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, June 24, 2013 - 10:18 am:

I watched an episode of "Inside Man" on CNN last night. After working at a medical marijuana dispensary, he noted that their customers were a lot more congenial and less angry than the customers at a liquor store where he had worked.

Be careful, ya' hear?


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