I just took my '26 coupe on a test drive after replacing the roller timer with an old, original brown NOS "New Day" timer and brush I found in one of my parts boxes while looking for something else and what a difference it makes! She runs even smoother and quieter than before with virtually no vibration. I don't think I can get her to run much better than this. Now I know what the fans of the New Day timer have been gushing about for all these years when they swear by New Day. I should have put it on years ago but I forgot I had it. Jim Patrick
Thanks for the info!
I almost bid one on ebay but didn't.
Next time I will!.......
Carbon distributor brushes are one of the reasons I love Bosch magnetos.
I have never seen a brush that was worn out in a Bosch mag........stuck from sitting forever yes but never worn out.
If you do use a New Day make sure it is an original unit, not a reproduction. Repo's are crap and cause no end of problems. I have two that did a combined total of just over 150 miles and were burned out on the departure side of the contacts causing misfiring and difficulty starting.
I now have a Anco fitted and have not looked back.
I've never had any trouble from my New Day. With a Google search you should find some previous discussions with lots of pictures showing how to recognize originals and repros.
Thanks for the warnings guys.......I've made note of the yays and nays of the New Days here for a while.......
Am i the only person in the world who has good mileage from a repro new day? i got mine for free because they said it was "worn out" so i cleaned it up with sand paper and put in a carbon brush. One year later it still works just fine and i never have to oil it.
kep, I've been running one for 5k and no problems, all in the brush I am convinced. KB
Replacing a New Day timer with a roller timer, or vice versa, should not result in a performance increase or decrease either way. Both designs are excellent and utterly reliable. Assuming both are original parts, not crummy reproductions.
There is a timing difference between an original New Day timer and a roller timer. You will need to bend the timer rod to achieve proper timing when swapping between the two. Otherwise your timing will be off one way or the other, depending on which one the car was adjusted to properly.
The New Day timer does need to be cleaned occasionally because the terminals will tarnish, particularly if there is any oil present. This is why you don't want to add any lubrication to a New Day. It will just cause you more frequent need to remove the timer and clean it.
I've been using an Eberhard Faber eraser to clean these timers. Works very well.
Both timers are originals and the roller type was on the car when I bought it in 1970 and was used and worn, but still operational. I was continuing to use it due to sentimental reasons. I think there was a difference in performace after the swap, because the roller wore a groove into the (4) interior contacts, while the contacts and brush on the brown New Day, were NOS, un-worn and like new. I didn't have to adjust the timer rod for the New day and the timing seems fine. As per the advice of the late Jess Bonar, I do intend on putting some Vaseline on the brush face and contacts of the New Day to increase it's life. I just can't get past the thought that un-lubed metal to metal contact and the heat generated by the friction, won't cause it to wear out faster than if it were lubricated. I can always wipe it out if the performance drops off, but it can't hurt. Jim Patrick
I think that would be akin to greasing the armature of the starter or generator. Not sure how good of an idea that is.
Good thought Doug. The New day timer contacts do look like a flattened out motor commutator and I never have oiled one of those. Jim Patrick.
The best thing you can do to the brush in a New Day is chamfer the leading edge to a 45 degree angle so the square edge is not digging into the bakelite as it comes off the contact. I have a New Day timer that was on an old truck I bought that has probably been on the 75 years. Still looks good inside. They were very popular in the day and IMHO are the best of all the wiper type timers except possibly the Turner, which I also like.
Apparently two different companies have made the reproduction New Day Timers. If they still have the machinery to make them, if someone could locate where this machinery is, it is possible to make them again using improved materials?
There was a guy at Chickasha who had a box full of timers and several old original New Days. One had an almost new original brush that came with
I bought all the good New Days he had and that was on the last day. The guy had a trailer full of parts and he complained he wasent selling hardly anything except the timers I bought.
Good things are where you find them I guess. Lucky maybe?
This is one of the T items that in my opinion would sell if it was reproduced with the right materials.
They definitely work well in my T's.
I'm with John. I have one of the black New Days, and although it seems to work OK, I would buy a new, well made repro in a hot minute.