A little transmission problem: no more driving...

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 04:13 pm:

...until this is fixed.


Yesterday I cleared some junk out of the way and drove the touring out of the shop and around the yard to the faucet, to fill up the radiator. When I went to put the car back inside, the reverse seemed kind of balky. So today I took off the cover and found this. Looks like I'll be ordering some parts Monday morning.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 04:32 pm:

I know how you feel. I went to take my Touring out yesterday evening and the radiator is leaking. I took it all apart only to find the bottom is in very poor shape. The sad part is I contacted 3 different suppliers and no one has the high radiator and the orders from the mfg are 3 weeks behind. I hope bubble gum will work for now.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Wolf on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 04:36 pm:

Steve;
What are we looking for, other than who ever wired it didn't know how to wire.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 04:40 pm:

Richard, the band is nekkid....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 06:04 pm:

I got that rear band out.




This explains why I had to stop with the hand brake.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 07:32 pm:

Sorry about the "Birthday Present" Steve. At least you found it quick.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 07:44 pm:

My bands did the same thing, I went with wood this time around, and its been pretty good so far.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 07:55 pm:

I feel pretty lucky when it comes to transmission bands. Our TT has Bennett auxiliary brakes, meaning there's no cam on the brake pedal. So, I didn't bother installing a transmission brake band since there's no use for it. The truck also has a Muncie 3 speed with reverse, so I almost never use the planetary reverse. My plan is that when the low drum band lining wears out I'll just remove it and slide the reverse band to the low drum and go another number of years. :-)

Steve - How's the drum look? Hopefully there's no damage! Bummer birthday present.....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 08:37 pm:

Steve, if that had been a Kevlar lining you wouldn't have that problem!

Just kicking the cat.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Travis E. Towle on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 09:26 pm:

Yea he would have a broken drum lol....


Travis
Topeka, Kansas


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 10:15 pm:

Sorry, I don't want to get off topic but, I just want to help Dennis who is having a leaking rad problem. Try dumping in the little yellow tube of stop leak product from the "Gunk" brand. Normally, like many, I don't like resorting to such tactics but have found this product to produce amazing results unlike that famous pellet product whose name starts with B. I took my rad into a shop for repair. They repaired some big problems but, there were still some fairly big leaks occurring. The Gunk powder stopped every trace of leak instantly and the rad still cools perfectly. You might want to try it. BTW, I tried both products on a car way back in 1981. Same results.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 10:47 pm:

Is that the "new" Scandanavian lining I heard tell turns to tar? It appears that the only lining that has the least horror stories connected to it are the wood linings. Another kick at the cat. Scat, cat! Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 11:32 pm:

It may be Scandinavian, but I wouldn't call it new. The previous owner thought this car may have been mechanically restored in the sixties. If so, it was mechanically ignored after that. The rear axle thrust washers were chunks of babbitt, fuel poured out of the carburetor through rust holes in the bowl, and the front end flopped around like a bobble head doll because all the bushings were worn out. It has a 20/20 cosmetic restoration. Looks OK from 20 feet away at 20 mph. Mechanically, it's been one fix after another.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Saturday, June 29, 2013 - 11:36 pm:

When did Bars Leak get a bad name and why? I have used it with good results for many years but not in the last 10.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Sunday, June 30, 2013 - 12:27 am:

Actually, IMHO what Steve shows is pretty much the way the 'old' Scandia eventually gives up its' life if left in too long.

The fiber eventually rots and starts to 'pick' at the end, and once a 'booger' gets under it just starts to disintegrate into fuzz quickly, but it usually such small fuzz you don't wind up like the earlier picture of the 'blanket' on the coil ring. The loss of an inch or so also happens quickly...once it starts.

I'd also venture to guess that Steve also had a bit of a clue...with this type of wear loss pattern,on that type of lining...early day braking seems to work...then you experience brake fade no matter how you pump them...and then later in the day you question if you are going to stop in time and leave plenty of room. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Sunday, June 30, 2013 - 12:42 am:

Steve, I respectfully suggest you order a set of Jim Guinn's wooden bands. I've used these for many years and have a few suggestions which may make the mounting a bit easier.

In my opinion wood bands give wonderful service and value.

TH


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kerry van Ekeren (Australia) on Sunday, June 30, 2013 - 12:55 am:

Ted
Bars leak go's back a long way, if used properly it could get you out of trouble but left in to long, created problems, in Australia we had a lot of British cars which required soluble oil in the cooling system (to lube the water pump seal) as normal part of servicing, I don't know the formula of today's Bars but it was half full of the soluble oil of old, over dosing would swell and break down rubber hoses. As for the plugging side of Bars, that's what it did, eventually setting hard in the tubes.
How do I know, Family owned radiator service, now into 4th generation.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, June 30, 2013 - 10:03 pm:

Today I got the other bands out.


Reverse


Low


Brake


The good news is that the drums seem to be OK.


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