with our local 4th of july car show fast approaching, and with the help,of my friend don, he mostly put on my long awaited splash aprons on my 1825 depot hack, it looks great, i am developing a new interest in the car. I wonder how many hacks are still left?
I might add , its a 1925 lol
Mike, just to be cute...I think mine was still a tree as late as 2007!
This 1926 hack is owned by Holman Automotive Group (founded in 1924) and was originally sold by them. Dont know much about it but appears to retain much of the ood, or is a much older restoration. It was at Merchantville NJ car show yesterday.
George, I think your hack body came to Jersey in 2010. So it might have still been a tree in 2007
George knows more information about the Holman hack than me, but I do believe it was traded in to that dealership in the fifties for a new car....
The Holman Group was an original Model T agency. The Hack shown was sold new by them in fall of 1926, and was traded in about 1952. The Holman's decided it would be something nice to keep around, and immediately proceeded to lose it under a tarp until about 2 years ago.
They were preparing to build a new world headquarters (huge group today) and contacted me about getting it to be a static display there, and ready to be driven for local car shows,media events, etc. It's not an older restoration unless something was done prior to 1952, nor is it a new restoration, what you see is how it came out after all those years. It doesn't have a speedo/odo which is a shame as everything was still nice and tight and I'd love to know how many miles are on actually it. The side curtain kit is new...the old ones were used as patterns.
Mechanical parts needed came in at less than 2K,it starts easy...but will say...has a cam end that was drilled THRU, and boy did that cost a lot of time because I never had one like that, mounted the cam part of the timer by feel...and then lost a day trying to figure out why I couldn't get it to fire in time!
It's really a nice, nice machine. In the new world headquarters they made a mural out of thir original showroom picture, and stage the T in front of it in the lobby.
Thanks for the info George, we drove past as they were unloading it from the trailer in a parking lot down the road, then it was parked across from us at the show. My wife and i were there with the towncar and center door but i never got the oppertunity to speak with the driver
Holman has 4 'qualified' drivers. At least thats how many I hung on the running board for as they learned to drive.
The skinny dark haired guy is named Niko and he does most of the driving for them. He's also the Chief Mechanic for the T. He's a great mechanic in his own right...and just has great hands. On the dirty jobs I got to stand back and just say 'Oh Niko?'and he did the rest.
Chat with them next time you see them. It's a great bunch who love their T and its' heritage. Actually, they have been invited to Moorestown for the 4th. Don't know if they will go, but as of now I plan on going...probably in my own Hack since I only get into town on the 2nd, and its a turn the key and go sort of thing as opposed to the '15 that usually says 'You want to do what?' when I bring it out of winter sleep! .
Just as a side bar story/joke...
When I first moved to South Jersey there were a bunch of T's and in time there just was me as the others sold off to points unknown...l-o-n-e-l-y...for the longest time, years on years!
Then John Carter showed up...and now he has two (Plus an A Pick-up)...then old Joe who was 84 from Cherry Hill bought one never having one before...there is my now 3...my son now has one of his own...the Mayberry's of Moorestown have a Hack sealed away...Holmans has theirs now out of storage and running...and now the Lemmerman's who like me apparently can't contain their buying habits...
Keep this up and we might actually have the makings of a local party time and really get to see and hear who has T's still packed away!
Please send me the particulars of the show..... may do the 50 mile trip in the '26
George, my wife and i will be at moorestown on the 4th. We may hit the Silver diner in the morning for their little breakfast show then skip out and head over to moorestown.
Bob if you can make it would be great to meet you too
Where's the Silver Diner.... food always interesting along with friends
Bob, sent you a pm we're sending Mikes topic way off. Sorry Mike, heres a pic to put ypur thread back on track
1921 depot hack with livingood 4wd
You're right. Sorry all.
Thank you for adding the additional details. I did a quick & distracted look on Google for additional details about their depot hack. I find a few items but none that described who the body maker was (local? One of the more common makers? Etc.)
I would think that there is a good story about that T. Do you or does anyone else recognize the body maker?
Again, thank you for posting the additional information.
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The body maker is unknown and have been all over it up, down and inbetween looking for a makers mark or additional clues.
It's the seats that are really different, almost a curved bentwood carriage seat type thing. The flush body panels appear to be different from most others too. The first panel by the firewall is also curved wood. Has some ironwork around the doors. Holman doesn't have any records on the body other what you see is what you get on what they took in on trade in '52. It's only been washed and wiped and the finish is still excellent.
The chassis is indeed a commercial chassis complete with the 'L' firewall and the coil box engine mounted. To find the maker of the body would be quite interesting. I do not believe that this just happens to be a very good one off local shop thing. I do woodwork and was approved to do restoration work for National Park Service on national treasures. There is just too much detail and attention to detail in the wood work, too many curves that are steam bent and not machined, but so far a brick wall on finding out who.
Holman went from a one car T showroom in '24 to being an East Coast biggy now handling over a dozen marques from Maine to Florida. They haven't found their original paperwork from 1926...yet...have only been able to pick up the trail from the trade-in with a note from one of the founders about remembering when sold and it should be saved as a Holman treasure. They do have someone in their HR department who will take any lead on something like the body and dig, dig, dig, but so far no cigar.
They do believe from shop lore that someone tried to awaken it maybe in the 70's, but reported the head leaked and that was that. Funny, still has the same head, I couldn't find a leak or traces of a hairline crack so don't know what that was. They had a spare...I wondered if it had been swapped but on examination that wasn't cracked either and the deck surface shows no evidence of a leak.