I bet the 1914 License Plate did not cost close to the $98.00 2014 Tags even for inflation figured in. Oh wait its Califunny. \
In 1914 dollars by comparison to 2013 dollars, it was probably more back then. In many states that had license plates in 1914 (many didn't), the cost was more than a days wage.
I knew Jerry (Moon Beam) Brown was old , but not that old. And to think I voted for him in 1974. Live and learn.
Happy T Turing.
Ouch I have to renue the registration on my 14 in 2 months. I am running YOM calif plates on mine so I get nicked a few bucks more
Time to invest in some Horseless Carriage plates, Mark. I mean . . . seriously.
Califunny dings you extra for the HC plates every year. The standard modern blue on white plate is the cheapest for an antique in Califunny. That is why I have them on the boat-tail.
Because I am cheap.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Oh come on now... Those new blue on white plates belong on your Honyota or Bemmer. The extra cost for the HC plates can't be that much more. My HC 2352 plate cost me $81. I'm thinking of changing to YOM plates sometime for the real original look.
Registration is coming up soon on my 14 and yes I am running YOM plates on mine. The main reason I did it was just in case some moron tried to "collect" them. DMV now has a record of the plates.
I don't see the advantage of horseless carriage on my T as I have installed a brake light and I don't drive it at night. (For you out-of-staters the Calif horseless carriage plates allow you to operate the car "as equipped" without a brake lite and with acetylene headlight. You still need 2 rear view mirrors however)
At the risk of hijacking the thread ... I believe here in Michigan, if you have the historic plates, you technically can/should only drive the vehicle to/from parades, and up to something silly like 50 miles a year or something. I opted for 'normal' plates, as I HOPE to be driving it a whole lot more. With the regular plates, however ... I also think one then needs to be compliant with tail and brake lights, etc.
If I'm wrong ... I hope so! I would rather have historic plates, and be able to drive as I'd like ... well ... as MUCH as I'd like. :-) I do have a '24 plate on the front, as we don't need front plates any more.
Texas is the same way Dennis. Antique Vehicle plates have limited use restrictions such as to/from club meetings, functions, etc and there can't be any advertising on the vehicle.
I looked into the Cal. Horse Less Carage plates for my 1914 T Runabout. They are only $50.00 up front and $42.00 renewal each year, but they have major restrictions on driving the car. I want to drive as if my T is a daily driver.
Attached. copy from CDVM
Horseless Carriage Plates
Issued to motor vehicles with an engine of 16 or more cylinders manufactured prior to 1965 and to any motor vehicle manufactured in the year 1922 or before.
Historical Vehicle Plates
Issued to motor vehicles or trailers manufactured after 1922 which are at least 25 years old and of historic interest.
Vehicles assigned Historical Vehicle or Horseless Carriage plates are limited to operation or movement over the highway primarily for the purpose of historical exhibition or other similar, noncommercial purposes, such as parades or historic vehicle club activities.
if you can't afford to tip the server, you can't afford to go out to dinner, and if you can't afford a proper license plate on a proper car, you can't really afford driving that car. I would probably castrate myself with a broken off beer bottle before I would be seen, even after night fall, with a white plate on a classic, historic, or antique car. Seriously.
I drive all of my cars as daily drivers. Either they have no odometer or it's not working. I do a lot of test drives though, and I would challenge anybody to prove that I'm not testing any of my cars when driving them.
I know a lot of people that run a lot on Horseless Carriage plates. I have never heard of anyone being hassled about driving the car at any time. The DMV around here stresses very clearly that it is not "allowed" to drive the car except for the stated reasons. I wouldn't worry about it myself. I just hate to pay the added annual fees. If I am going to pay the added fees, I like the YOM plates better.
I really can't afford to drive the cars these days. Thanks largely to my totally screwed up family. But it is about the only joy I get in life. So I put my foot down and the cars are staying.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
California has restrictions on both Horseless Carriage plates and Historical vehicle plates, but I haven't found anyone at the Department of Mental Vegetables that can explain why. I could maybe understand if there was a discount or lower fee, but there is not. The yearly license and registration fees are the same, plus a fee for the special plate.
Year of manufacture plates also have an additional fee similar to a personalized plate, but there are no driving restrictions.
I have three T's, one with H/C plates, one with YOM plates, and one with modern white plates. I have never been pulled over or hassled for driving any of my cars, and I drive them a lot. The touring with the H/C plates is driven almost every weekend for some reason or another and I have never been stopped or questioned. The police have better things to do than try to figure out if you are on an historical mission. Besides, I figure that every time I take the car out, it is an "Historical Exhibition" and since I have our club logo on the side, I am also involved in a "club activity" and wherever I go, people ask questions and so I am on "official club business" promoting the club and hobby!
There is a "plus" to modern California white plates though. California plates have a reflective coating, and if you drive at night, which I frequently do, the plate is a big white reflector helping to make a poorly lit black car much more visible to cars approaching from behind.
Bernard, I was going to offer to send you a beer bottle but since I don't drink I don't have any. Wait, if you can hold off long enough I'll pick one up off the side of the road or or from a Martin demonstration.
I just realized how to save $98.00 a year. I can spend it on parts or buy 8 gallons of gas in Califunny.
South Dakota has the same restrictions for historic plates as Michigan. "to or from parades, special occasions, or for service". Since I drive mine to the hospital, park it at the clinic, and drive for ice cream, etc, I'd be hard pressed to convince anyone I was just out testing the engine. Also, if I register my plates as "historic", and either wreck the vehicle, sell it, or decide to use modern plates for a year, the plates and that number become forever null and unuseable. I cannot take them off and use them on another similar vehicle or sell them to someone else to use. One of the quirks in the law that I'm slowly talking to DMV to correct.
The 14 grandsons 15 and Wifes 29 A all are regested with pairs of YOM plates and no trouble anywhere.AS a matter of fact i think they would look hokey with anything else.Please do not send any broken bottles! Bud.PS,Maby that is why the 10 cent millionaires in midland looked down on us? They proably thought that cheap ------- has not bought plates since 1929! Bud.
My 1916 pie wagon was reg.& licensed in Alaska in 1980 and we moved from there in 1982, Historical vehicle plate for life time, still on there. that's 31 years and I'm not changing it (paid $125.00) It also has "ALASKA ICE COMPANY" on the sides.
I would worry less about getting cited by the police, and more about whether the ins. co. could use a license irregularity as an excuse. You may never know unless it's a real expensive incident.
Good thought Ricks.
I never thought about the insurance company (J C Taylor is mine) if I forgot to buy tags next year.