I am new to this forum. I recently acquired a 1923 Canadian T touring
The windows are both 37x10 and three quarters and the stantion height is 27 and 1/2. But my windows have about a one inch gap at the bottom and top unlike windows on a friend's 23 Ford with the same window dimensions and stantion height. Can anyone help with getting these windows right. Are there others with the same problem?
This a picture of my windshields as mentioned in the previous post. Note the gaps. Also note the shape of the stantion where it attaches to the body. Is this the correct stantion for a 23 Canadian ford?
Hers a picture of my 23, its a put together (US)The top Frame is 10" and the bottom is 10 3/8"
hope this helps.
John, I don't believe your windshield is correct. you have two upper halves and someone has modified your stanchions. Should only be one wing-nut on each side just like Bob's photo above. It looks like your bottom half is an upper turned upside down.
Also the lower half should be a little wider than the upper half.
Here is a shot of my 24, should be the same.
Here's the US glass sizes.
Could someone send me pictures of their stantions for 23, 24 T touring. Mine (pictured above) seem to have a backward crimp before the slanted vertical part. The other 23 Canadian ford that I am comparing with has same size windows as mine and same ht. stantion, as well as two wing nuts on each side and its windows are perfect.
Typical USA '23-'24 open car windshields.
"No. 4" is a '23 style, the '24 style on the left with 'high' radiator and hood & radiator apron, but both have the same slant windshield.
Don't have a Canadian Parts and Price Book to lookup if the part numbers for Canadian windshields are different from USA.
As has been stated, your windshield has been modified by someone during it's life.
The windshield book makes no distinction between US and Canadian models.
Here's what is noted as a Canadian pickup conversion that appears to have a dual pivot windshield. Not real clear from the blow-up but it does show. It doesn't help with your problem other than to verify they did exist either from Ford or as an accessory. I also saw some Australian supplied bodies that show dual pivot windshields.
Perhaps someone from Canada or Australia may be able to help.
I think you are going to need replies from Canadian owners. My understanding is that some of the Canadian windshields are different. I know less about 1923 on that, however some a few years earlier I know were very different from US built cars.
One other thing I would wonder. I know that the C-cab Ford supplied truck cab had a windshield a couple inches taller than the slanted car windshield was. Otherwise, it looked very similar. Double check your measurements. Something doesn't add up.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Here is a 1923 Ford Canada parts page showing the 1920 -23 sloping windscreen.
Australia only received chassis in knocked down form so we don't have the Canadian bodies so any of our T's are different.
you can see from the page that the two halves are different and also there is two posts one for and one without provision fro side lights.
Looks like someone cut the window frames down to match the U.S. glass specs. The originals must be taller. There's also a missing bridge between the stanchions.
The photo Dan Treace posted is wonderful. There are so many 23-4 open cars out there with the incorrect size and spacing of the rear windows. Thanks too for posting the photo of my p/u too.
It appears that there was a difference in the 20-23 Canadian slant wind shield ( Peters post)and the 23-24 US style. There is a brace between the stanchions and there for the glass frames were different also. Now the question is did the Canadian ones change to the 23-24 US style for 23-24. Just one more thing for the researchers to look into. Great question John M.
The bridge between the stantions shown in Ken K's posted picture from the Canadian parts catalog is a mystery. I cannot see it on any of the pictures of Canadian cars, such as the old photo posted by Ken. Did the American cars have it as well? I do not recall (and can not see it in my photos) it being there on my American 23 Ford that I owned over 50 years ago. Does anyone have a photo showing it on a restored car? If so, I would love to know the dimensions.
The missing part marked by Ken is part 11003 which is the lower rubber weather strip, part No 11002 is the one on the upper windscreen
The artists obviously drew it in to show the complete windscreens, like a lot of the drawings the scale varies with parts.
I sent you the measurements in an email from my 24 Canadian. There is definitely differences between Canadian and US. I believe you may have 24-25 Canadian windshield posts on an early 1923 which I think because of the wood firewall (low radiator). Pivot point of your top frame may indicate the wrong top frame. Many frames were similar back in those days but had different mounting points.
There are definitely differences between US and Canadian. The posts are not even shaped the same. Canadian posts are more square shaped while the US are more rounded. Bottom frame on Canadian cars pivots. US does not. I just went and took measurements off my 24 Canadian. This was a complete unrestored car when I obtained it. Windshield posts are 27-7/8" top to bottom. First hole, measuring from the bottom up, on the centerline of the post is 13-3/8". Top hole is 25-1/2". (12-1/8" approx between holes).
Both windshield frames are 10-7/8" high. The lower frame's pivot point or mounting stud is 7-1/2" up from the bottom. The top frame has its mounting point down 2-1/2" from the top. Bottom frame is 36-7/8" wide. Top is 36-3/4". Hope this helps.