Kingston L-4 Carburetor Drawing...

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Martin Vowell, Sylmar, CA on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 06:18 pm:

Ok, I'm posting my drawing of my Kingston L-4 Carburetor, so you guys can take a look and tell me if I've gotten it correct or not (I'm pretty sure I have, but you never know). I figure you fellas here are probably the best source of information on any subject Model T there is.


If you guys see anything that's not quite right or know of some part number that I didn't include, please tell me.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 06:48 pm:

Wow! That's pretty enough to frame and hang on the wall. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Clipner-Los Angeles on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 08:53 pm:

Uh, what's that horizontal flap to the right of the body ?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Treace, North FL on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 09:35 pm:

That flapper is the air valve part






Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George Clipner-Los Angeles on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 10:42 pm:

Ok Dan, I see it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Martin Vowell, Sylmar, CA on Sunday, July 21, 2013 - 11:58 pm:

Dan, that picture doesn't look right for an L-4, looks too stubby and the nuts are wrong, mine has a 3/4 bowl nut and that looks to be the 15/16's one. Also the mixture valve shaft isn't on an angle like that...is that an L-2?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 12:33 am:

Dan is just using it as an illustration of the flapper valve. Who ever used it in the first place just put L4 as the model, they may not have had the proper illustration at the time it was published.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Martin Vowell, Sylmar, CA on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 02:31 am:

Soooo, it is an L-2 then? Is it accurate? If so there's enough there to give me a good idea of how it looks, then I can draw that one next... I love to draw :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thomas Mullin on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 09:34 am:

Great drawing Martin. Are you using 2D or 3D CAD to assist you? Your exploded view is easier to see where everything goes than the original sectional photograph. You really need to both to get the entire idea.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R.V. Anderson on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 09:55 am:

Outstanding drawing, Mr. Vowell. I personally have little experience with the later Kingston carbs so it's a real help to me and a great asset for my service library. Thank you for taking the time to do it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Martin Vowell, Sylmar, CA on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 05:14 pm:

Thomas and R.V., thank you, I've been doing TI work for over 40 years it's just I've never done anything for my model T before. Since I'm retired now (wither I want to be or not, thank you crappy economy) one day I decided to take 4 hours out of otherwise boring day and do the L-4, and it beats going shopping with the wife lol.

As for the program, it's nothing fancy like AutoCad, SolidWorks, IsoDraw or TechIllustrator (good programs all, but really expensive). I suppose the program I used is considered a 2D cad program though. Corel Draw 11, I had gotten it long time ago from a friend who didn't know how to use it and I did.

I had so much fun drawing the L-4 and the Headlight drawing (something I'm still correcting with everybody's help, lol) I wouldn't mind doing more carbs if I could get a top assembly or cross section and pictures of two outside views of (both sides), that's all I really need (or as in my case the item itself). After looking at an old post of Stan Howe's I realized there are a lot more carbs than I had first though. It would be fun to do all of them and it would give me something to do, lol.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Martin Vowell, Sylmar, CA on Monday, July 22, 2013 - 09:27 pm:

Does anybody know if the choke and throttle arm from a Holley NH will interchange with the choke and throttle arm on the Kingston L-4? They look the same to me, but I thought I'd ask to be sure.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 12:23 am:

Martin,

The MTFCI has a technical library. Why don't you post your drawings on the MTFCI website and contact the webmaster about having a permanent home for them. I think they would by quite handy for the Model T repairman (or woman).

Ted


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 12:33 pm:

Martin;
With a little work the NH throttle shaft assembly will work in an L4. If I recall the shaft for the NH is larger but the butterfly slot and holes seemed to line up with the holes in the butterfly when I did mine. Don't know about the choke shaft, you could try it and find out.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Martin Vowell, Sylmar, CA on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 03:00 am:

Mark thanks, I'll have to try that and see.

Here's the updated version of the, hope it can of use to somebody.


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