Looking at MACs for a new transmission band set and I do not know what to choose, T3416BKEV or T3416DKEV (wide brake band).
What do you say?
THANK YOU ONCE MORE
If your transmission is late 25-6-7 it will have a wide brake band, you have several choices, wood, kelvar, or Scandanavia. (or the black tar babies) not good
It depends on the year of your car. If it is a 1909-25 you need the narrow set. If 26/27 you need the wide brake band set.
Ideally John's and Stephen's answers would be correct. However, over the years, engines and transmissions were swapped around, not necessarily paying attention to authenticity or correctness. For example, my 1922 has a '26-27 engine and transmission with the wide brake drum. It SHOULD be the narrow brake drum. On the other hand, early transmissions (1909-late 1925) with narrow brake drums have found their way into '26-27 Model T's, although probably not very often due to the loss of braking power in these heavier body styles.
Therefore, do not rely solely on what year your Model T is or even what the engine number says (later transmission mounted to an earlier block with four dip pan is also common). Remove the inspection cover beneath the floorboards and look inside your transmission. If all three drums are same width, you have a 1909-1925 transmission. Order the bands from those years. If the drum farthest back in the transmission (i.e., towards the rear end) is noticeably wider than the front two drums, that's a late 1925-27 transmission and you'll need to order the '26-27 style bands.
Does the '26-27 style bands fits OK on a '24 trans?
No. it's too wide. It will probably get torn off by the driving plate or rub on the low drum.
If you mean if the '26-'27 style quick change bands will work on an earlier transmission, the answer is yes, BUT you will have to use three narrow demountable ear bands.
Why not measure the width of your existing brake band, then post the measurement on the forum. The answer to your question will come quickly, I'll bet.
If all your drums are the same width, then you have a "narrow" brake drum. If your brake drum is much wider than the others, then you have a "wide" brake drum. As others have said transmissions and engines have often been swapped during the years and you need to look and see what you have.
Also the modern Scandanavia bands are not like the original and do not perform or last well. Stay away from these.
That leaves you with two choices: Wood or Kevlar. I use Kevlar bands made by the Rocky Mountain Machine Company. They are finely woven and hold up quite well.
The Rocky Mountain Machine Company is in Colorado and is not the same as the Rocky Mountain Brake Company.
I'll check it out, thank you once more.
You might also want to check out wood bands from Jim Guinn. They're a softer touch, wear well and feel more like the woven bands than Kevlars. But you will most likely have to take the hogs head off to install them.
Rodrigo, just to go a little further with what Martin said, no matter what bands you choose to install it would be best to remove the hogs head. Installing them through the opening will bend them out of round. Of course use what type you like but, I also recommend wood.
Rodrigo, one indication would be as follows. If you have a wide clutch and brake pedal chances are you have a wide brake band. If all your pedals are the same (spoon shaped like the reverse), then you probably have the narrow band. The wide pedals and bands were used on the 26 and 27 cars but could have been retrofitted to cars of other years. I hope this helps. Bob
Is there a model T owner living in either Knox or Lincoln county Maine. I am a new owner of my first model T.I need help, the clutch pedal hangs up on the hand brake and the brake pedal sticks on the trans. housing.The pedals are the wide ones. This is a 1925?T. I need help adjusting the bands,plus I have other questions that need answers. I am willing to pay for your time and travel
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Roy, I know you are new to this forum but, you may want to start your own thread. People are more likely to see it if you do.