Installing Demountable Rim onto Wood Wheel

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Installing Demountable Rim onto Wood Wheel
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 01:44 pm:

Please pardon the newbie question, but how hard is it to install a spare demountable rim onto a wood wheel? The valve stem is pretty long, is there enough clearance to allow inserting the valve stem through the hole in the wheel rim, then swing the rest of the demountable rim up and onto the wheel rim?

I just installed my spare rim and tire onto my 1923 touring/pickup using Jack Daron's running board mount, see pic.

If there are any tricks I'd like to know about them before I have to change a rim on the side of the road, thanks.wheel01wheel02


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charles Linsenbarth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 01:56 pm:

Can't answer your question but could you post some more pictures of your pickup, that my next project.
Charley
PS--Someone will answer you, right now there all healing up from last nights wrestling match. HA!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 01:58 pm:

Yes, you insert the valve stem first, then push the entire rim on the felloe. When you tighten up the bolts, do across the tire and do not tighten one before you tighten the others. That is you gradually go back and forth tightening them until all are tight. The reason is so that you will not bend the rim, felloe, or lugs. When you are all done, the wheel should spin true without a wobble.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Layden Butler on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 02:02 pm:

Not hard at all. Easiest if you rotate the wheel so the stem hole is at the bottom when taking a rim off and at the top when the new one goes on. A lot of Ford and other make car owners have been doing it for the last century.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 02:04 pm:

Sure, no problem, here are a few more pics.

I saw elsewhere on the forum not to have more than 20-30 lbs pressure in the spare unless it is mounted on a wheel, is that just for split rims, or all demountable rims?

Thanks.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charles Linsenbarth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 02:24 pm:

Thanks, that's very nice.
Charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charles Linsenbarth on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 02:26 pm:

How about a picture of the drivers side mirror?
Charley


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 02:43 pm:

Here are a couple pics of the mirror, it is the "black extendable mirror", I bought it from Lang's.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 03:34 pm:

Hi all, still looking for an answer to my other question:

I saw elsewhere on the forum not to have more than 20-30 lbs pressure in the spare unless it is mounted on a wheel, is that just for split rims, or all demountable rims?

Thanks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 03:39 pm:

I have never seen that. Split rims take 30 lbs,30x3 1/2 take 60. Keep them aired up always. You can soon jerk a stem out of an under inflated tire.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 04:22 pm:

What is the value of a spare tire if it does'nt have enough air in it to be a spare tire????


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 04:38 pm:

Thanks, I guess I misread the other thread. I agree, an underinflated spare tire doesn't have much value.

I aired my new spare back up to 60 psi, just like the other tires on the car.

Thanks again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 05:05 pm:

I find it easiest to rotate the wheel so that the valve stem is at the top. After the lug nuts are removed, simply pull the tire and rim out from the bottom, a few, not too many inches (the rim and lug bolts will let you know how much). Then lift. Model T tires and rims are not very heavy. I have no trouble what-so-ever lifting it.
Be a little careful with the valve stems. Slipping the rim off and on can force the valve stems sideways a bit and can damage the stem. Especially, if it is an older tube or been in a spare rim that has been exposed to sunlight for a couple years.
When you put the spare on, lift, then carefully set the valve stem down into its hole until the rim sets on the wheel. You will need to jiggle the rim a bit to get the fixed lugs to slide onto the lug bolts. Some of the lug bolts may push back, some won't. Just press them back into place with your fingers after the rim is in place is usually good.
Tighten the lug nuts. Depending on how well the rim fits that particular wheel, the lugs may or may not pull all the way down to flat against the wheel felly. Do not over-tighten them if they won't pull clear in. They can be broken off the rim. Try to tighten them evenly, but don't go crazy with it. A little wheel wobble on 80+ year old cars is kind of normal and usually doesn't bother anything.

The only reason to run the pressure down on your spare is to reduce age-cracking in the tire. I prefer to run an older, worn but not bald, tire that looks good as a spare. Then I don't worry about a new tire age-cracking itself to death. Otherwise, if you really want to run your spare tire near flat, carry a good tire pump. That is usually a good idea in a model T anyway. Many gas station air pumps won't put out enough pressure to inflate a T tire up to 60 or 65 psi. Also, keep a 100 or more psi pressure gauge.

I have always said and believed that roadside repairs were part of the fun with model Ts. Changing tires with a spare and demountable rims is easy. Wait until you have to have that brass car, and want to keep it with the proper non-demountable wheels. And have to repair the tube. And it is 100 degrees outside. Now, THAT is fun!
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 08:34 pm:

Wayne,
I really hate to mention this, but I think you may have a perverted understanding of "fun"! (or maybe just diabolical?)
(and thank you spell checker!!!) :-)
Hey, when it cools off, we should go on a picnic or go to Players and scarf some pizzas with Terry & Terrie so we can talk Ts!
T'ake care,
David D.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 - 10:46 pm:

Perverted? Diabolical? Me? Mwa ha ha ha!
Yeah. I definitely need to get out more.


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