Why won't my t drive right?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Why won't my t drive right?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 10:55 pm:

Yesterday I drove my 26 for the first time now I know the rear end was assembled backwards and I just fixed that but what I can't figure out is how the car could go to one end of the yard but couldn't go back to where it started from, and there is a mild uphill slope when I was driving back.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 10:57 pm:

In Reverse?? Maybe your bands need adjusting.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 11:18 pm:

They might, when I pressed reverse it went forwards and when I pressed the clutch it went backwards and second gear did not work Steve Lang explained to me the rear end was built backwards the ring gear was suppose to be on the drivers side but it was on the passengers But that still does not explain why I could not go forward across the lawn


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 - 11:44 pm:

Tighten up that low speed band a bit. With a fair amount of pressure the low speed pedal should be about an inch off the floorboard.

(I assume your in low for your yard driving !)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 12:04 am:

Thanks Bud, currently there are no floor boards to be exact there is no body. my property was a horse ranch back in the 50's so I can run it in high through the fields if I wanted to but those fields arn't exactly flat


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 12:38 am:

Do you have any experienced Model T hands nearby who could check it out?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 09:55 am:

No not that I know of. I would call my Grandpa to look at it but he has been losing confidence in his ability to drive and work on T's


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 10:25 am:

Spencer
In the national directory there is a gentleman that lives in Windsor lock that you might contact for help. If you send me a PM
(click on my name to send) and I send it to you, don't know him but it might a start in finding others in your area.

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 10:33 am:

Thanks Bob, George King is about an hour away so I might ask him for a favor or I might call up Ed Stein he is a good friend of my Grandpa's and he is also about an hour away


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 11:03 am:

Several things come to mind. It all depends on what you mean. It is a little hard to understand from your post. If you went downhill in reverse, the return would be uphill. Low is higher gear ratio than reverse, so it might not have the power to go up the hill in low.

If your engine needs some work, the problem could be in the engine and not in the gears. Or the fuel system could be starving for gas and so it gets enough gas to go downhill but not uphill. You say there is no body. How did you get gas to the carburetor? The gas tank is in the cowel. It could very well be the supply of fuel to the carburetor is not enough to pull a hill.

You need someone in the area to help you and see just what is the problem.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 11:40 am:

Thanks Norman, my neighbor and I fixed the rear end and tightened up the bands it is now Driving correctly, the only issue with the motor is an oil drip from the timing cover. I made a wood firewall and attached a lawn mower gas tank to it so I could drive the car from my garage to the barn. as for the rear end Steve and Don Lang told me the ring gear was on the wrong side of the housing it was suppose to be on the drivers side I had it on the passengers that explains why every thing wasn't operating properly.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:21 pm:

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 02:22 pm:

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 06:58 pm:

Spencer

Nice work!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 09:52 pm:

thanks Bud By the way what type of oil should I use in the rear end I have been using 2 quarts of 1-40 but I am not sure if that is right


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John F. Regan on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 10:06 pm:

2 quarts of any lube is more than twice what you need in the rear end. That much oil will cause leaking out the ends of the housings and will soak your brake linings if you have any on your iron shoes. Factory was 600Wt gear OIL which is about the same as 140 wt Gear lube. You only need enough lube in there so that you can touch the surface of it with your little pinky in the filler hole and reaching down to the lube level.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 10:17 pm:

thanks John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Thursday, July 25, 2013 - 10:49 pm:

Can any one tell me how much anti freeze I need I thought someone told me 14 quarts or 3 1/2 gallons of 50/50 but I don't recall because right now there is strait water in the radiator


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Friday, July 26, 2013 - 07:57 am:

Drain the water. Add one gallon of 100% Ethylene Glycol anti freeze (it's green in color). Then fill to the top of the fins with water. This should make the water level 5 - 6" below the cap.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Friday, July 26, 2013 - 08:22 am:

Spencer, Get it off the grass and on some pavement. The lawn is a much tougher pull for a T, especially until trans bushings and bands are worn in a little.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Friday, July 26, 2013 - 10:46 am:

Thanks guys come saturday morning the neighbors will be wondering what is going down the road


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Sunday, July 28, 2013 - 04:37 pm:

It still won't make it up do you think the rear gear ratio is too high its a 40 tooth ring and an 11 tooth drive shaft gear


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Sunday, July 28, 2013 - 06:15 pm:

Something's wrong. That's the standard rear end. It should have enough power to climb a fairly steep hill in Low. I assume we are talking about Low gear here, right? Does it seem to run well otherwise? Idle well and have good throttle response in Neutral? Hitting on all 4? Good coils? Plugs? Have you done a compression check? Sounds like something is definitely wrong.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Sunday, July 28, 2013 - 06:51 pm:

Hal It runs great and we are talking about low I think the problem is the head gasket since it leaks and makes the car over heat let me Know if you think it's something else thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Sunday, July 28, 2013 - 07:28 pm:

I would do a compression check.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Sunday, July 28, 2013 - 09:40 pm:

Alright thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Monday, July 29, 2013 - 08:33 am:

If your leaking from the head gasket you've probably got a head gasket job ahead. Very easy to do and lots of info on the forum. Just do a search. I don't know the history of your car, but unless you've just replaced the head gasket, I wouldn't try just tightning the head bolts.

As for overheating, when was the last time the radiator was serviced? Again, lots of info on the forum on radiator and block flushing.

Good luck, keep us posted.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 03:56 pm:

Well I was not expecting 8 dead mice in the water jacket At least the problem is solved


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 04:21 pm:

That's your overheating problem. But what about lack of power? Was that caused by the engine being too hot?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 12:15 pm:

no the lack of power was do to a bad head gasket


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 12:30 pm:

So, do you have it back together yet?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 08:55 pm:

yep I took it for a spin today and I have lots of power But I was not expecting water in the engine pan George King said change the gasket and head after I find out whether that was leaking before or after the gasket job If it was before the repair He said to just drain the oil. that's tomorrows project


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Spencer Vibert on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 11:39 pm:

I still can't get second gear to work any Ideas


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