Text from Gene:
Touring in a wreck today.
Maybe flat tire or lost wheel.
He didn't say who. Let's hope for the best.
Received at noon, PST.
Be careful ya' hear?
Pray for the best for those involved in the accident today on our last day of a wonderful week of touring. Everyone here is in shock, I'm sure. Tonight is our final banquet dinner so I'm sure we'll have more info about who and how they're doing.
I don't have any other info than the road was closed on our way back from Zion today early. It looked like damage to the right front of the touring when we were allowed to proceed thru in one lane.
My prayers go out to those involved.
I do so hope it was not or is not very serious.
I will await details. Thank you Ralph for forwarding this.
Drive carefully, and do enjoy, W2
Just saw it on my DTN News but it is very sadly very serious. Google Utah Model T Accident.
I just googled the above mentioned site and the news stated that one person died and three were injured. My thoughts and prayers go out to all.
Oh, Gee. My heart goes out to all involved.
Oh my..... that's terrible.
So Sad, my prayers to the families
That's really bad news, the driver trying to do the right thing for traffic conditions, resulting in this nasty accident, condolences to all involved.
My heart just sunk...I pray for comfort for the close ones, and all of us WHO CARE!
How terrible. While we moved from the US to South America, we monitor the T forums for our "fix". This shouldn't happen to folks, out having fun on a T tour. Or anyone for that matter!
Candles have been lit and prayers are being said for all involved.
July 26, 2013 Associated Press
An accident involving a 1915 Model T Ford killed a Minnesota woman Friday in Zion National Park in Utah, The Associated Press reports.
Utah state troopers say the Model T was traveling along state Route 9 Friday when the driver pulled over to the side of road to allow traffic to pass.
However, troopers say, when the right front wheel went off the pavement, the wooden spokes of the wheel came apart and vehicle overturned, ejecting all four people.
Officials say all four people were from Minnesota.
Three were transported to the hospital by ambulance, and the woman, 51, was airlifted to the hospital, where she later died.
Very sad to hear this. My condolences to those who lost their loved one.
Minn. Woman Killed When 1915 Model T Overturns in Utah
An antique vehicle traveling near Zion National Park in Utah overturned on the last day of an international Model T club's annual tour, killing a woman from Minnesota and injuring three other people.
The accident happened Friday morning on state Route 9 when the 1915 Ford Model T pulled to the side of the road to allow traffic to pass, the Utah Highway Patrol said. The right front wheel went off the pavement, the wheel's wooden spokes separated, and the vehicle flipped, troopers said.
All four occupants were ejected, troopers said. It was unclear whether the vehicle had seatbelts, although Model T experts say restraints are of little use in the soft-top vehicle that typically travels at no more than 30 mph.
"There's no rollover protection," said Andy Loso, who's part of a Minnesota Model T club but didn't participate in the tour.
Troopers said all four victims were from Minnesota, including the 51-year-old woman who died.
"This club is a family," said Russ Furstnow, a board member of The Model T Ford Club International and chairman of the tour, which involved about 170 vehicles. "We're extremely upset about the whole thing."
Furstnow said the club has never had an accident on one of its tours. The weeklong events take place in different parts of the country each year, with this summer's tour involving drives along the Grand Canyon and in Bryce Canyon National Park.
"The Model T is just a social medium. It brings people together that have a love for these old cars," Furstnow said. "We have these summer reunions and it's almost like an extended family."
(Copyright 2013 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.)
How sad & to happen on the last day of the tour - the family is in our prayers.
It appears to be a '13-'14 Touring.
I am so very sad, with heavy heart and praying for the family.
I am on the tour, and will have more information after the banquet in just an hour. The car is in fact a '14 touring, belonging to Tim and Karen Johnson of Owatonna, Minnesota.
We feel sad for everyone on the tour. You are all in our prayers. Chaffin's Garage and staff
Our sympathy for the family. A most tragic ending to what should be an enjoyable week.
Keith and Carol Gumbinger
The news article posted by "Ed in California" states that it was Karen Johnson who passed away.
Karen was the President of the T-Totalers Model T Club. She will be greatly missed by everyone in our club.
Glen...we second that. We lost one of our own extended Model T family today and several others, including children, were injured. This accident is heartbreaking news. Everyone on the tour is in our prayers. May everyone have a safe journey back home and God watch over them all.
I am so Sorry!
Our prayers go out to all, KB
We know Tim and Karen well. This is horrible. Tim, Maureen and I are praying for all of you.
So terribly sorry to hear of this devastating news. God be with everyone tonight and beyond, especially those in the accident,and Karen's family. You are in my prayers.
I stopped for a soda at 7-11 and saw the headline on their monitor. Knowing that the tour was going on my heart sank. Now knowing of the severity makes it even worse. Saying prayers for the family's involved.
Oh, good grief. Karen's son was driving, did something responsible (pulling over to let traffic pass) and a freak accident occurred, which killed her. He will be haunted all of his life. It wasn't his fault! Please, everyone there who has the chance, hug Karen's son and tell him it wasn't his fault. He needs to know that, over and over.
At Mark and Sherri's last year.
The MTFCA would like to express our deepest sympathies to the family and the tour. We were contacted by a person who attended the tour who advised that the report that the Model T was pulling over for a modern car was incorrect. An unfortunate and deadly accident occurred.
We understand that not all of the deceased family has been notified and respectfully request that postings not be made on this Forum until the family has received notification.
We cannot control the press, but hope you will join us in respecting the victim's family.
Our Model T family is deeply saddened.
That was/is a great post Dick! At the time of your loss your thinking of others!! Good advise! Bud.
Bud, I have been following this whole thread with pleasure, thinking back four years to when Anja and I did this same tour. It has been a bittersweet pleasure, of course, but a pleasure nonetheless. When I read about this accident, all I could think of is a 19-year old who was driving the car when his mother died, and it wasn't his fault. He absolutely needs to understand that it wasn't his fault. I am afraid he will need people to tell him that. If the other tour participants get a chance to see him, I hope they start that process.
I am terribly sorry for the family Their son should understand that this was not his fault and it should not have happened. all of us, the model t clubs and families lets make sure this does not happen again. We are all saddened by their loss. She will be missed by all of us
How sad. I am very sorrowful for the friends and family of the woman who died. Were any others injured? We will pray for them.
Derek, The Great Northern Club has, for the most part been notified. Andy has said he will update us as details come out. This is terribly sad news for sure. Our prayers are for Karen and Tim and family tonight. I'm very proud to say I met Karen a couple times at different events and found she had a great sense of humor, a wonderful personality and the devotion and love for her club was extremely strong. We pray her family members will all be alright. May she rest in the peace and presence of the Lord.
I pulled the same maneuver coming back from the Iola Old Car Show with the '19 Touring on July 11th.
We were nearing a rather significant hill and I had 3 vehicles behind me.
I didn't want them ready to shoot me as I would have been going 20 MPH at the crest of the hill so I slowed down and put the right side on the shoulder, waved them to pass and continued on our way.
Now I KNOW my wheels are good.........but doesn't everyone?
NEXT time I'll be slowing down even more.
I will say something that some of you may find insensitive, but be assured that's not my intention: life is inherently dangerous. Those who enjoy it to the fullest often take greater risk.
I was flying private airplanes at age 24, had testicle cancer at age 28 and afterward lost my license because of it (which was non-sensical). I started auto racing in my 40s and went semi-pro without getting hurt a single time. My wife's first life partner and father of our daughter, a health freak, died at age 37 of lymphoma, unexpectedly. My wife's first car accident in her entire life at age 51 was past Memorial Day when our Speedster hit a tree straight on and she broke her right foot 4 times.
You can be super careful and die due to a freak illness young in life, or you can live life to the fullest, like Hugh Hefner does it, and die of a heart attack at age 100 on top of a smoking hot 20-year-old. Fact is, none of us knows when our number is up, and those who stay inside to avoid having a bicycle accident or drowning while swimming in a lake on a beautiful summer day might die when a truck without brakes drives into their living room or an earthquake brings down their ceiling.
Life is the one thing none of us can get escape alive. All we can do is try to be careful, enjoy the ride, and try not to have any regrets. I rather die at age 70 doing something I enjoy doing, than at age 85 suffering and needing somebody to wipe my buttocks every time I get out of the bathroom.
When my mom died after multiple heart surgeries at age 76, I didn't mourn, which not even my wife understood. Instead, I embraced her life, remembered the good times we had together, and focused on the positive.
If there's nothing after life, the dead do not suffer; if there's something after life, it presumably is a better place. There's nothing I or anybody else could have done to extend her life and there's nothing I could have done to undo her death. But there's one thing I had control over: my own reaction to her death. I could allow myself to suffer for a long time, or decide not to perceive this as being a very painful thing for myself, and I chose the latter. This philosophy of deliberate dis-attachment from things we have no control over is found in Buddhism, by the way.
I told my wife that if I have a heart attack one day that ends my life, to remember that I lived life, enjoyed life, and have no regrets. I have a solid health insurance, so she won't have to worry about money.
We are all born, and we all die. What matters is the time in between these two events.
Food for thought.
In case you guys missed part of Barbara's post:
"We understand that not all of the deceased family has been notified and respectfully request that postings not be made on this Forum until the family has received notification.
We cannot control the press, but hope you will join us in respecting the victim's family."
in case YOU missed this: the story has been covered by several newspapers already and been read by presumably a few hundred thousand people. In addition, the name of the accident victim has been posted here as well. That can't be undone short of the Webmaster deleting this tread at his discretion.
Understood Bernard, but in case YOU missed it, Barbara "respectfully" asked for no further discussion on this forum even after all that was posted.
Or did YOU miss that?
My condolences to the family.
At some point it need to be discussed whether it was hickory spokes or oak.
My condolences to the family. Attached is a link to one of our local newspapers reporting on the accident.
I can see where Bernard's coming from. My father's dad (my grandfather) has been gone 40 years. I remember him as kind, loving, and attentive to me. When I was born, he and my father drove me to another hospital to be stabilized for various problems I had since the hospital I was born in wasn't as up to par as it could have been. My dad held me in a paste-board box, and my grandpa drove.
I don't think about him at lot as I only had him for 5 years. My dad told me there isn't a day that goes by in the last 40 years that he doesn't think about him.
I am grief stricken. I am so sorry this happened and my prayers go out to the families of the injured and deceased.
Such a tragic accident. I notice it is a high wishbone with no extra bracing. I wonder if the wheel collapsed first, or if the axle geometry changed when the wheel went off the pavement causing a hard over, which then caused the wheel to fail.
Our condolences to the Johnson family; a difficult time for all.
I am so sorry to hear this. As Dick Lodge said, I hope everyone supports the young man that was driving. He is going to have a rough go of it for some time no doubt. He will need all of the support he can get. My sincere condolences. Dave
I'm very sorry see things like that happen.
Tim, Our sincere condolences for the entire Johnson family. Our thoughts and prayers are with you all especially dealing with this devastating loss of Karen. Hugs- Adrienne & Wayne
Please don't jump to conclusions. No where does it say her son was the driver. Most reports say son, granddaughter and another 19 year old.
".....Hospital, including the driver, Johnson's son, and her 12-year-old granddaughter...."
The driver and Johnson's son seem to be 2 different people in the quote above taken from the article that was included in this thread. Either way it is a horrible thing to have happen.
In a report I read, it stated that Karen was driving.
We'll all just have to be patient until the details become known. Once we have the facts, we can hopefully learn from this experience.
I'll add too, how devastated I feel for Karen's family and the entire Model T hobby. Though some of us may differ at times, I have always considered everyone in the hobby as being my friend. We have all lost a dear friend. Please folks, though it sounds cliché, be safe.
Here is a link to Karen's Obituary.
If this doesn't work just Google - Michaelson Funeral Home Owatanna
If anyone planning to attend the visitation and funeral is in need of a place to stay Wednesday night, I have a couple beds available here. We're about 30 minutes from Owatonna.
Derek Kiefer 507-438-8907