What's my 25 pickup box missing?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 10:28 am:

I picked up a '25 pickup box yesterday, thinking that it would be an easy conversion from my really beat-up turtle deck. This one had been made into a trailer decades ago, and has been stuffed in a barn for decades too. Note that the floor was replaced, and all the metal "runners" are full length. I dug out the "Bible" and it mentions multiple fasteners to mount it, not just the four bolts used for the turtle deck. It also mentions some side trim pieces that bolt onto the body sides (so four new holes in the body!) I suspect the bed does not bolt flat to the platform, as wouldn't there be all the runner fasteners underneath--or does it not use the square washers & nuts of the later boxes? Here's some pics of mine--anyone have good pics of what it should look like underneath? Because of all the mounting changes, I'm thinking of instead putting a Perry wood pickup bed on it, that does just use the 4 "normal" mounting bolts.
OH, the fender brackets are cut off--how long should they be? I'm thinking of using some bad front brackets to get the material to add on to these. Any thoughts?

3/4 view of bottom

another bottom view
The dark spots below are where we spilled some olive oil on the bed.
inside right side

inside left

And the cut off brackets left & right--note the repair (welded) Did these screw into the base?;
fender brace leftfender brace right

And, I don't think there's anything missing here at the battery box cover cut out?
Battery cut out area


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Brancaccio - Calgary Alberta on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 10:39 am:

Battery box door


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 12:05 pm:

Without more detailed photos, it's difficult to tell what is missing. But, it appears the side pieces have been sawed off that hold it to the side of the rear deck. Possibly there is a Model A tailgate on it, and the center rib that bolts the bed to the rear of the deck is missing too, which is common. Be careful with those bed strips. They only used them one year. I am returning home now from the Canyonlands Tour now with my '25 pickup.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 08:28 pm:

A frame and four wheels!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Tuesday, July 30, 2013 - 11:58 pm:

I was hoping that Larry would chime in--figured he would know what should be "under there"
Took some more pics and looked things over some more. The wood filler in the channel under the tailgate appears to be pretty solid! Not certain why the suspicion that it's an A gate. I see no sign of any metal ever being attached to the bottom of the side panels. My bed rails have square holes in them. Also, I only have 3 and the photos of originals I see show 4. I know the bed wood is a replacement. Here's some more close ups:
Right edge detail
left edge close up
Left edge detail
left  bed edge close up

Center hole of tailgate end.
gate end center hole

Right hinge area
Right gate hinge area

Left hinge area
Left gate Hinge area

I doubt this is an original part, but here's the center cross brace.
Center wood brace


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Alexander in Albion, Maine on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 06:46 am:

David: I too have a 25 pu. Larry was very helpful to me when I converted my roadster to the pu body. I also suggest Steve Conniff in Colorado as a source. But, the best thing you can do is to find someone with a pu near you and go visit and see for yourself. Take a camera and some note-taking stuff. It will be a very rewarding project when you are all done. Good luck.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Wednesday, July 31, 2013 - 11:05 am:

Another thing I forgot to mention is that my bed rails have square holes in them, like the later ones--do I have later ones??
Thanks
Bill--Larry is probably the closest one to me that I know, and he's about a 5 hour drive away. Guess I'm goin' on a road trip sometime!
David


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Alexander in Albion, Maine on Friday, August 02, 2013 - 07:41 am:

Dave: You'll have a great time visiting Larry. I have, but only over the internet and the phone. You will get all of the details in correct form and come away with lots of info and having made a new friend. Wherever I take my pu, I always have a difficult time getting away from the folks that gather around. Last night Julie and I went for ice cream and mine melted all over my hand while I answered questions.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dick Missett Wyoming, PA (NE) on Friday, August 02, 2013 - 10:15 pm:

Bill

I have that same melted Ice cream problem when I'm in my 24 Touring (G)


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