Rear fender ?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Rear fender ?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 06:54 am:

Hi all! I will be installing the rear fenders on my 24 tudor soon and would like to know if the nuts face inside the body or out? and do I use two flat and a lock washer on each bolt? thanks, Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By keith g barrier on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 10:25 am:

Ken, when I replaced one of mine with a nos one it had the nuts on the inside with a lock washer. As far as I could tell it had never been off before. KB


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 12:01 pm:

Ditto that. On my 1926 Fordor that has never been restored and still has the original fender bolts, with all the heads on the outside and the nuts on the inside. The original hex bolts have a smaller than normal head with a flat washer under the head and a flat washer on the inside with a split lock washer under the square nut. I posted a picture of one set of them I removed back in 2010 and immediately re-installed after taking the picture. www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/170189.html. Jim Patrick




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ken bechtel on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 06:15 pm:

Thanks guys! your help is much appreciated. Ken


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 09:21 pm:

Jim, that lock washer is way too big for that bolt. I doubt it was installed that way at the factory, but who knows. Stranger things have happened. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Voss on Thursday, August 01, 2013 - 10:45 pm:

Does anyone know were you can get bolts like this. I think it is a 1/4 20 with a 3/8 head. About 1 or 1 and 1/4 inch long.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Friday, August 02, 2013 - 12:34 pm:

David, My '26 Fordor is original from the factory and the fender bolts as well as the body bolts have never been removed except for the one set I removed for the photo. the split washer goes under the square nut and not under the hex head so the ID of the split washer is small enough to be covered by the square nut. I assume Ford elected to use a larger OD split nut, to make it easier on the assembly line worker to find the bolt with the split washer on the hidden back side of the splash shield as he was charged with the tedious task of installing many sets of: 1 bolt, 2 flat washers on each side of the fender flange, 1 split washer on the blind side and the square nut in all of the holes affixing the fender to the splash shield. With so many small parts to install, this is one job I would not have wanted to do all day long as the relentless conveyor continued on. It is interesting to speculate on the lives of the line worker on a Ford assembly line, with ever increasing demands placed upon them and Harry Bennet's goons striding up and down the line making sure those demands were met.

Tim, I wanted to replace the modern hex head bolts I installed years ago with the original bolt sets shown in the picture so I undertook to find them. It was not easy, but I finally found a close replacement from McMaster-Carr, with the correct size hex head, only they had a flange under the head, but, after I carefully ground off the flange up to the (6) flat sides of the hex head, using a dremel tool equipped with a grinding disc, they looked identical. Please see the portion of the McMaster-Carr invoice with parts numbers. If you go to www.mcmaster.com and plug in the numbers, you can see what they look like. I purchased the split washers from a hardware store. Jim Patrick



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