A real 1908?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: A real 1908?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rodrigo Nunes Ricardo on Friday, August 02, 2013 - 09:52 pm:

Visit:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-Ford-4-Cylinder-Model-T-Automobile-Photo-Poster-zub 4213-D2MZQB-/290927037936?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43bc9a4df0


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, August 02, 2013 - 10:10 pm:

Walter Miller sells all kinds of auto literature. He probably doesn't know that a T made in 1908 is a 1909 model.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Friday, August 02, 2013 - 10:11 pm:

Not likely considering the first model year was 1909.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Friday, August 02, 2013 - 11:48 pm:

I wish it was in color to show the interesting color combination of the lighter colored chassis, spring, axle, steering linkage and undercarriage and the darker body. I wonder what the colors were and why they painted the under carriage parts such a lighter color. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chris Paulsen - McPherson, KS on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 12:39 am:

The type font makes me think it was printed from a small photo distributed by the Melton Museum in the 1950's. I'll try to check the ones I have.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 12:43 am:

It looks to me like a '40s or '50s restoration. The tires, the tread on the tires. That sort of paint job was very popular at that time. However it was very unusual during the brass era.
Thank you, Rodrigo, for sharing the photo. I probably would not have seen it otherwise.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 10:48 am:

When I got my '15 Touring about 12 years ago, a lot of the chassis parts were painted red. From what I know of the car's history, this was done in the late 40's or 50's.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hap Tucker in Sumter SC on Saturday, August 03, 2013 - 12:44 pm:

Rodrigo,

Thank you for posting the link. As mentioned by others even though the first 300 or so Model Ts were manufactured in 1908, they were sold as 1909 models. But I have really been enjoying Walter Miller’s e-bay store. He is reprinting several nice photos as posters 16 x 20 for around $15 with another $8 shipping. Not inexpensive – but I really like some of the 1915 posters. And he offers them in the original or cropped views. In my case I prefer a larger car and less background. I’ve put the following on my wish list to my Santa Claus (she said something about the list was already so long I would have to live past 100 before I would get all of those requests.) http://www.ebay.com/itm/1915-Ford-Model-T-Touring-Car-Automobile-Photo-Poster-za d3824-/370759771574?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item56530125b6#ht_2968wt_885 the original photo with more of the house showing is also available: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1915-Ford-Model-T-Touring-Automobile-Photo-Poster-zad378 4-/370759769541?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5653011dc5#ht_2968wt_885 And they have many other year Ts also.

For Wayne – you are correct that many of the brass era cars used the same color on the body as the chassis. But several of the car manufactures including Ford used a different color chassis than the body. Ford also used the same color for the chassis and body – depending on the year and model. For example when Ford introduced the Model S Runabout in the fall of 1907 his sales brochure [see: page 18 of http://www.ebay.com/itm/1907-Ford-Model-N-S-Prestige-ORIG-Brochure-Model-K-wq684 6-OLVVQM-/290871290491?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item43b947aa7b ] said:

“ So the “S” may be said to combine the
choicest features of those two wonderfully popular
models [N and R], at a cost of $50 less than Model “R.”

deleted paragraph…..

“To distinguish them from the other two, Model
“S” cars are painted Brewster Green as to body
with cream running gear.”

And of course many of the earlier Ford cars also had a different color chassis than the body.
1904 B dark green body yellow gear ref: http://www.earlyfordregistry.com/pate-storyboard/1904B-touring.pdf
1904 C some had straw (cream) running gear some carmine (red) http://www.earlyfordregistry.com/pate-storyboard/1904C-tonneau.pdf
1905 Model F – cream or maroon running gear ref: http://www.earlyfordregistry.com/pate-storyboard/1905F-tonneau.pdf
1906 Model K blue or yellow running gear ref: http://www.earlyfordregistry.com/pate-storyboard/1906K-touring.pdf

Of course many of the cars and chassis were painted all the same color as the 1903-04 Model A and other Fords.

Note the car appears to be one of the first 2500 cars – low radiator filler, no bills on the front fender, wooden running boards with brass trim, etc. And as I look at the photo, I believe there is a good chance it is a two – lever. I agree the photo appears to be from the 1950’s. And if that is the case – that car surely still exist unless there was a catastrophic even such as a garage fire etc. And for the Model T Ford, to my knowledge the early cars were not offered with a dark body and cream chassis. According to Bruce the chassis was pained the body color on the early Ts ref: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/1909.htm . I suspect those were the colors the 1950s restorer liked.

Again thank you for posting the information.

Respectfully submitted,

Hap l9l5 cut off


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mark herdman on Sunday, August 04, 2013 - 04:30 am:

Hap

The photo is of #685 Touring from Swigart Antique Auto Museum-Huntingdon-Pennsylvania.

Mark


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