I just listed my 1916 T project on ebay. The ebay is set very reasonable. I want to find this car a good home.
you can see it here and bid on it here
questions, give me a ring 310-425-8700
If I had money, time, and space for another project...
Drop it off at my house for two weeks and I can use my conservation and preservation talents to breath new life into that original paint.
Before and after of the original paint on my roadster.
Huh, it's in my hood of West L.A. .
Your car looks great and I can surely appreciate the work you did to bring it back without restoring it. However for me I am out of the Model T game and quickly as I got in it. I have a 1967 Chevelle in my garage that is a frame off project that is 80% done and the funds from the sale of the T will go into that
Yes the car is located about 5 miles from LAX airport, if you are interested in it let me know!
Does anyone want to take a guess at what they think the car will sell for on ebay?? Id love to hear opinions!
Since you asked, I think the car tops at $2K. That's what the starting price is set at and reserve is higher. So it may not sell. Major problem is the wood is gone. Ever try rewooding a T? The kits aren't worth a damn.
I didn't catch the part about termites the first time I looked at the listing. We don't have that problem in my part of the country.
A majority of the upper body wood appears to be intact and in good shape.
That's the problem with termites--oftentimes the outside of the wood looks great, but there's nothing behind a now paper-thin skin of the old wood!
I say it brings 3,500.
If someone wanted a mostly complete original car to restore this is it. The missing turtle deck drops the price around 500.00.
Of all the T's that need a rewooding the roadsters are the easiest. I used a Fordwood kit in my 1919 Roadster 20 years ago and it worked fine.
Reserve has been hit at $2,995.00. Highest bidder will own the car. I expected it to hit reserve as it has and go beyond (will see) I found a guy selling a turtle deck for $100, I will pass that info along to the new owner so they can try and make the deal happen.
Thanks for all the interest.
I love the paint of that car, would never repaint it. What scares the living daylight out of me is everything else . . .
Hey Erik, is your car a '17 or an '18. Just wondering.
The open top T is probably the easiest car to rewood. i would buy that, Looks great looks wise.
@Bernard I hear you but in reality although it needs a full restoration the car is a good start!
Thought you guys might enjoy seeing this photo of the car from "back in the day". I believe this is original owner of the car and his son if I remember the history lesson correctly from his granddaughter.
Eric, I love the look on your '17! Where can one learn the procedure for the conservation/restoration and how does one maintain this look and still use the T as a daily driver?
It wasn't really necessary to suggest that this car could be a *hot rod*.
"This car is a great project, art piece or start for a hot rod."
I agree with John. The hot rodders can use fiberglass bodies. They don't need to ruin an original body.
Just my opinion and I'm sticking to it.
Me personally if I were to build a rod id prefer to start with an original steel body and do a 50's themed build. I know that making this car a hot rod would not be a popular decision but it surely would make a good donor.
It's a travesty to think someone might turn that wonderful Model T (or any Model T) into a hot rod. Just search Model T Ford in cars for sale on eBay. 90% of them are ruined Model T's with some pile of crap modern engine and drive train. Typically they sell for 1/10 of what it cost the owner to make the modifications. Why the word would need another Model T hot rod is a mystery to me.
Just like a real restored T. If you want a ruined one, it's cheaper to buy one that's already ruined.
Many Laurel and Hardy movies were shot in Culver City. I wonder if this was one of their T's?! Jim Patrick
I doubt it. I don't recall ever seeing the boys with a T that early. They didn't appear in movies together until 1926, and I think the T's they used were black era cars a few years old.
I think you're right Steve. Jim Patrick
For sure is NOT a car used in Laurel and Hardy. Too bad!
I'd like the ford sign hanging in the background of the first photo......
Well, my car ends tonight on ebay and the high bidder will get it. Last call to anyone who wants to give it a shot! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=271252789455
It went for $4555, I pushed them up a little but missed out.
Tony were you the second highest bidder? If so I felt bad for you missing out by only 50 bucks.
The OP of this thread is a dealer
@ http://motors.shop.ebay.com/21stcenturyperformance/m.html?item=271252789455&view item=&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562
If he cared about who the car sold to - if he wanted to make sure it would only go to a buyer
that would do an original restoration and not
hot rod it - he would not have sold it on ebay ....
Clearly he started this thread to generate interest and line his pocket with more money.
I'd say that's a really good result for a car that will soak up $1,000 bills like a dry sponge. Congratulations!
It's called marketing. . . .
A Dealer is not likely to try us first, as you said. I hope "one of us" got it.
(If you're a hot-rodder, sorry guy, I'm NOT! Although I helped restore a '36 ford convertible trunk back sedan that had been "customized" in 1938 with a Carson top (supposedly the 4th one he made, but somebody (from the family!) filched the tag) and Pines grill, hood, and fender trim and hydraulic brakes--and it was still owned by the guy that had it done. Sadly, he passed before the car was finished, and AFAIK, it is still unfinished (some 25 years later).
Why do you feel the need to differentiate ?
In reality - there are no Purists ....
Anything that is not 100% original as it rolled
off the line has been modified.
That is the reality of a vehicle life ...
Personally I appreciate ALL VEHICLES ....
I do not discriminate.
And " marketing " is what a " dealer " does.
If a person wishes to have an ebay account selling car parts and/or cars - good for them.
I got to tell you, yes I do buy and sell cars, it happens naturally for me as I own 3 shops and they kind of just find me however my business is restoration, general repair and a body shop, we also dabble in manufacturing parts for late model Mustangs, all my parts are made here locally using only US produced parts. I believe in supporting my country and I believe capitalism is NOT a bad thing and yes I did make a profit on this T. Some may think that makes me a bad guy, but I don't.
With that being said, I originally bought this car with the idea of keeping and restoring it for myself. The car was extremely sentimental for the family and their request was hot rod it, restore it whatever, but do my best if i decided to sell to find someone who would not just use it for parts.
I started making phone calls, reading forums etc to educate myself on the model T as I had very limited knowledge of these cars. My passion is muscle cars, mainly GM and I have owned many of them and I have also been a member and moderator of a large Chevelle forum since 1998, I am 29 years old so you do the math. I have been a car guy my whole life.
Part of the fun of these old cars is the people and clubs that surround them, I have met many people and made many friends in the Chevelle community and I really liked the idea of doing the same in the Model T "family" however I found a dark side to Model T's as I started making calls and reading forums. It seems that there are is some grumpy old SOB for every few good people that are willing to give you some advice. Combine that with the limited use of the T once completed and I was turned off.
In my readings I do know that the value of these cars has tanked and interest in them is dwindling faster every day. Some of you (not all) should consider downing a couple of happy pills in the morning. Without a younger generation showing interest in these cars the hobby will die.
Tom's a good guy... I'll vouch for him.
I've known him from the Chevelle forum for about a dozen years or so.
Nothing wrong with trying to get the best price one can from those that would be the most interested in the item. I'm sure not going to sell something for $50.00 if I can get $100.00, and if there is a club that has members who would have the most interest in what I am selling, danged if I'm not going to go on their Forum and let them know what I have. Tom came to us so we could go look at his T and I commend him for it and if one of us placed the highest bid, one of us would have gotten it, but it was not to be, but that is not his fault. He tried. He did not have to come to us, but I'm glad he did and I hope others will too, but they aren't going to if we criticize them for being greedy if they do. Jim Patrick.
I've encountered a few grumpy SOB's since acquiring my first t last year but it doesn't phase my desire to finish the car. T's are not glamorous or fast but there something about them that takes me back to my youth (early 80's) when I could work on my muscle cars without a plethora of computerized equipment.
With kids in college and grade school paying thousands of dollars for a "restored" muscle car is not in the plan. But a free t from my grandfathers estate makes it easy for me to get back into cars. Plus sometimes it's nice to putt around at 35mph, you actually get to enjoy the scenery.
Don't worry you'll be there someday, time forgets no one.
I hope you didn't think my posting was a "Grumpy" one--actually, I thought I was defending you in my opening!
As far as interest declining--interest in anything "old" is declining--until July 17 I was a museum curator, and I can show you the declining number of visitors to five museums--and the difficulties in finding volunteer to staff them. Our society is undergoing a major turning point, and a lot of things will "go by the wayside."
OK, I put Bronze Thrust washers in my differential, and a modern pinion bearing kit, and after-market brakes; so I guess I'm not a purist either.
As to "hot Rods" back in 1971 when I first had my model A running, some guy wanted to buy it so he could "drop a 350 in there"--good thing I didn't have a shot gun. I'm only the second owner, and I've tried to put it back the way it was when Mr. Green bought it new. Maybe the 3rd owner will drop a 350 in it, but I won't be around to know about it (at least not from this perspective. . . )!
No, David that was not intended to you at all. The buyer has sent his deposit and is local, and sounds like pickup will happen Thursday. Ebay seems to be working out on this one. The buyer sounds like a good guy who is new to T's and plans to restore, which is great.
Tom, I hope you will point him in our direction so we can properly indoctrinate him to our way of thinking and doing things, LOL!
David, you are a great member and T owner. I apologize if my post seemed direct at you. We understand that even if a post is mis-interpreted or mis-understood, we all have the same goal and the best intentions in mind, which is the promotion and preservation of the Model T as it was meant to be. I always say, if it looks like a T, sounds like a T, runs like a T, smells like a T and drives like a T, then it's a T, even if it is comprised of parts from 18 separate T's all from different years. Jim Patrick
UH, was that "Local" or "loco"?
Interesting, put it on an international auction site and someone nearby buys it!
Reminds me of looking for a Model A for my friend Dwayne, back in our high school (or shortly after, I think) days. We went all over northern California looking at all sorts of cars--one neat we found was a coupe, original owners, bought new in Hawaii with twin sidemounts!--and I found him one, basically in his back yard--it was in the back yard behind his back yard! We got it running, tied the back doors together, sat on boxes and drove it from that backyard around a long block to his backyard! Then the tires went flat. . . . You can get away with a lot of stuff in a small town!
I wonder if he still has it? had a neat trunk rack that also extended the back bumpers.
One of you mentioned declining volunteers at museums, Funny, The local museum turned me down as a volunteer.
Egads!! The basic requirement here is breathing! Well, actually, the HR department does a basic background check since school aged children take tours through the museum.
HI My name is Peter im the guy that bought the 1916 model T on ebay.
Im new to the model t but have a couple of old fords already.
My plan is to keep the patina and try to fire up the engine and have something to drive to the donut shop in HB.
I would like to buy a set of used tires just wanna find something that hold air so i can move it around and just drive around the block later on. Also interested in fixing or replace the front rims.
Is 21 " the right size for 1916?
The engine looks pretty ok i removed the plugs and cylinder walls and valves looks good. Where can i find parts locally if i need to buy something? Im in Huntington Beach.
No, 30X3 tires on front and 30X3 1/2 tires on rear. nondemountables.
Chaffins is near you in Corona, CA. Click here:
chaffins seems to have it all and pricing is fair.
Does anyone have a set of used 30" tires.
Welcome, Peter. I don't know whether to wish you congratulations, or condolences. . . You'll find local help from somebody real near you. What part of the 'burb are you in?
The pic in your profile looks like it was taken Dunnunda. There's a gumtree grove near my house across from Meadowlark Golf.
Here is a 1913 Runabout that was in similar condition. Before and after pics. Hard work is all it takes. Look under "restoration" for the 1913 Model T Ford Runabout.
Peter I may have some tires for you.
I'm "next door" to Ralph, I'm sure we can find you some rollers.
Give me a call at Seven14 Four88-6013 to my cell.
We live in HB. Bolsa Chica and Warner
ill will give you call
Hi in the middle of a move and don't have time and space for the 1916 model T Roadster.
Willing to let it go for $5100
Engine turns with good compression, tranny and brakes also work fine.
The T is in Huntington Beach
Peter 951 310 9051