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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve in Tennessee on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 11:20 am:

My wife found this picture of her Grandfather and wants to know what the car is. The picture was taken in 1927 in Chickasha, OK.

I guessed an Essex but I have no clue. I'm sure you experts will know.

Thanks,

Stevecar


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 11:48 am:

Looks like a 1929 Buick to me.

Are you sure the photo was taken in 1927?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 11:54 am:

I've changed my mind.

The radiator shell looks similar to a 1929 Buick but looking at it again the car is not large enough (tall enough) to be a Buick. Also, I don't think '29 Buicks had drum headlights.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 12:03 pm:

Looks like a Hupmobile to me. Inline 6 car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 12:04 pm:

A bigger picture might make the ID easier.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 12:36 pm:

It's not a 1927 Hupmobile six. The fenders to not have the same profile as a 1926 or 1927 Hupmobile. Also, the 1926 and 1927 Hupmobile visors were part of the roofline, not a separate piece.

I grew up around a 1927 Hupmobile Model A six cylinder four door sedan - my dad had one for approx. 30 years. One of the nicest unrestored cars around - see below. The car had 10,000 miles on it when he bought it - that is the original two-tone factory paint and the original roof covering in the photos. (Fenders and wheels were repainted).

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 12:44 pm:

Well Steve you have it on good authority that it is in fact NOT a Hupmobile. =)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve in Tennessee on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 01:13 pm:

not good with getting the picture in there. By the time I made it fit the file size requirements.

Will ask about confirmation on the date.

I noticed the drum headlights also...and the cowl lamps.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve in Tennessee on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 01:22 pm:

Update - He was born in 26 and is not quite 2 years old when this was taken. So the picture could be as late as 28. Perhaps that opens it up to a 29 model?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Holly Shelton on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 02:18 pm:

Here's a larger version of the photo Steve posted. It's my first time to post, so hopefully I did it correctly. :-)

larger version of steves pic


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 02:32 pm:

Pontiac.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 02:34 pm:

It really looks like a Willy's Knight to me


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Everett on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 02:35 pm:

Holly, it came through perfectly. Thank you.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 02:36 pm:

1928 Pontiac.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 02:48 pm:

Eric may be right. The hood and parking lamp details looked like Willy's to me but the tiny bracket on the sun shade are Pontiac.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 03:04 pm:

The radiator shell is the first clue and dead give away that it is a Pontiac. I'm pretty sure it's a 1928 based on the rest of the details of the car.

Even though the details are fuzzy, it also has Pontiac indian chief radiator mascot where the head juts forward with the feathers going straight back, parallel to the ground.

I believe the earlier Pontiac mascots had a full headdress and didn't sit so high in the air.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 03:50 pm:

I googled "1928 Pontiac Sedan" and found this:
pontiac


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve in Tennessee on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 04:46 pm:

Looks like aPontiac to me. thanks guys!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 05:19 pm:

Wait a second, Steve, I've changed my mind.

This time I think I nailed it.

It's a 1927 or 1928 Oakland (very close to a Pontiac, the companion car to Oakland).

The hood louvres on an Oakland go almost the full length of the hood while the Pontiac hood louvres go only three-fourths of the way.

What I thought was a Pontiac indian chief mascot is an Oakland eagle mascot.

See photos below of Oaklands and the Eagle mascot.

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve in Tennessee on Monday, August 05, 2013 - 05:40 pm:

cool! And I tohught I married a poor girl!


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