Wood engine blocks

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Wood engine blocks
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Copeland - Trenton, New Jersey on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 12:02 pm:

How imporant are the wood frame blocks for the rear engine mounts. I don't know why but the blocks don't line up with the holes can I leave them out?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 01:41 pm:

You'll get conflicting opinions on that. Some will say they're very important. The opposition will say you're better of without them. I chose to go stock and keep them. Because my frame is about 1/4" off square, the holes in the right side pan ear and frame rail didn't quite line up. I put the block in a vise and ran a 3/8" bit in the hole at an angle that would let the bolt pass through both holes. Some will be aghast at that, but I think it will be OK.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 01:43 pm:

If you have a 26/27 engine with the diagonal straps from the engine block down to the upper rear engine mount bolts, then you don't need the blocks.

Earlier engines needs the blocks for side stability. Did you put them upside down? Maybe the upper bolts are too long and pushes the blocks down? You can put the block in place for best fit and drill new holes through the blocks, then mount the horizontal bolts. Don't fasten them too tight, just snug and secure the nut with a cotter pin - the frame may crystallize if it's too tight said Ford.

Here's a recent thread about those bolts: http://www.mtfca.com/cgi-bin/discus/show.cgi?tpc=331880&post=544202


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 07:01 pm:

I think Ford did away with the blocks sometime in 1925.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Friday, August 09, 2013 - 07:30 pm:

Maybe late calendar 1925 which is the 1926 Model. My late 25 had the blocks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 09:55 pm:

They used the blocks in '25, but they changed them some time in '24. They are almost square, which makes routing the gas line easy. It also makes installation of the side bolts easier too.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 10:13 pm:

im sorry... WHAT? i have never heard of such. where do these go?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 10:20 pm:

in the "C" channel of the frame with a bolt thru frame, thru wood, thru hole in "ear" where engine hangs on the frame near the cowl.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Dufault on Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 10:24 pm:

Nathan,

Look here:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/155696.html


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Nathan Bright on Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 10:24 pm:

huh... this makes sense though. really, cutting a block of wood to completely fill this channel would be smart. It would be a cheap version of a fully boxed chassis.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Saturday, August 10, 2013 - 10:28 pm:

In the old MAC's catalog on pg48, part #T3083--crankcase arm block, wood, fits into frame.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Hycner on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:43 am:

William- My car is an early '26 and it has the blocks in the frame mount. Pretty confident that is the way the car came from Ford since it was parked in the mid 40's until 2012.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 09:02 am:

Ford did away with the blocks on the TT in the 1926 model year which began in late calendar year 1925. Cars are supposed to have the blocks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 09:44 am:

I went back and looked and yes I found that out. The blocks were discontinued in the TT in May of 1925, at least that's what the Bulletins say....


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