need bolts and what looks like missing some parts.
Kenny, there is a long bolt that goes through the hole in the center of that rear support bracket. It has two fairly stiff springs, one on top of the bracket, and one on the bottom. A nut secures the assembly and is cotter keyed to the bolt, if I recall correctly. The bottom of the transmission rests on the top of the bolt. At least that is the way it is on my TT, if I'm not mistaken. Dave
thanks where can i get parts.
thats it no one knows anything else.or where to get parts.
Kenny, I also have a Chicago E tranny with no shifter on top. just the threaded portion of the tranny. I don't know what the rest looks like and hope to see one someday that I may be able to fabricate, unless I can find the parts somewhere. As far as the brace underneath, this is the first I've seen of it.
I had 2 Chicago transmissions I sold to a fellow in western Indiana. Don't know if he still has them.
If interested, drop me a line.
Search this site for "Auxiliary trans" in a previous post. A complete photo spread of a "Mark E" trans!
still goy nothing.
Try Bob Bergstadt and Mark Freimiller. Put an ad in MTFCA classified and Vintage Ford. You will likely have to buy a second transmission and combine the two to make one good one.
If you have the cash, then just replace it with a KC Warford and you will have synchromesh transmission,
Not sure what you are missing. I believe the drain plug and side plug are both standard pipe plugs you should be able to get at most any decent hardware store. The support brace looks like a nice one, not sure what all is missing there other than obviously a bolt to link it to the transmission. Again, I don't know that there is anything terribly unique there that you shouldn't be able to come up with. Some form of spring or pad for a "soft" connection would be best. On my speedster with a 26 engine and trans and thus the ears with support bolts on the hogshead, I've run my Chicago trans for 18 years with no rear support mount. That's not the best but hasn't been a problem either. I would highly recommend some rear support mount if used with a 25 or earlier engine.
Kenny here is a link to the Chicago Mark E transmission
Not sure how I missed this one...
I have a Chicago Mark-E in my '26 Roadster and have had it apart several times.
There are no reproduction parts available at all that I know of....if you are missing things, you will have to make them as I had to do with mine, or find another one.
Steve Husa posted my thread and the blow apart of my trusty Mark-E.
What Parts are you missing? Most of the Chicago Bolts are special and can't be purchased at the local hardware store....they would have to be made.
I have had my top housing apart a few times. I will pull it apart and get some good photos of the shift lever, spring, pin and cap for you with measurements.
I need drain plugs the mount at back where brace is.and bolts that moint to motor and bolts that mount to axle. The shift rod pulls out so how to bolt that.
Thank you, Clayton. I'd appreciate it. I haven't seen one on a tour,(or recognized it if it was there) and would like to see how it works. Maybe I could have the top parts made if I can't find them.
Kenny, the drain plugs are common pipe plugs, any good hardware store should have them. As for the mount at the back where the brace is, see my post on August 11, right under your picture. You will have to do some measuring and trial and error to get the correct length bolt and springs. From your picture, it looks like you have the bolts that mount it to the hogshead installed. There also appears to be bolts in the rear to mount the torque tube. These can also be found at a hardware store. They won't be "correct", as in period correct, but they will work. For the shifter question, some more pictures would be helpful. Dave
Is there a picture of the rear to see what it looks like the bolt and spring .thanks for all you help guys....
I went through my library of Chicago stuff and dug up these. Hopefully there is something her useful, if not...I can take some:
I will get some pics of the Shift Tower parts tonight.
Clayton, Great photo suite, Thanks!
Great pic.my support for trans is not like that and goes to frame with u bolts.
Two ads from the period.
I made my support cross member. It started as the rear motor mount cross member for a 1912 Cadillac. I narrowed it 8" inches (which mad it a perfect fit) and built the spring mounted yoke. I have seen the u-bolt mounted style like yours, but wanted to built something a little stouter....plus I had this cool looking cross member laying around begging to be used.
No problem! This is why I document everything
Great Adds! wish I could find high quality copies....I would print, frame and hang them in the garage.
I don't know much about the Chicago transmission so I have a question:
Am I reading the ad correctly when I conclude that the Chicago transmission provides a low, direct, over and true neutral but no reverse?
You are correct. The Chicago Mark-E is only an Auxiliary Overdrive gear box.
Model T reverse is still used, but with the Chicago...you now have 3 speeds in reverse.
Here is also a quick vid I shot of me shifting my Chicago.
Interesting....that exploded view/photo of the Chicago gears and bearings looks identical to that of a Warford 3 speed/cast iron. Can't find the photo of the Warford gears, but it has been shown in VF and on the Forum....would be interesting to compare.
What would be really nice is if somewhere, someone had an original (or copy) of the installation instructions !
No kiddin', Steve. What I find interesting is the statement in the second ad Dan posted that says, "Any garageman or owner can install without special tools". Since it would be necessary on a "stock T" to shorten the drive shaft and tube as well as the radius rods, I sort of think "without special tools" is a little misleading.
Henry: This is a little OT for this thread, but. I have a set of books from a Ford dealer back in the day. When they sold a Ruckstell with a car there was never a labor charge listed. When a Warford was sold with a car or truck there was always a $50.00 labor charge. Dan.
I don't think it's OT Dan. It illustrates what I'm saying. Although there may not be any "special" tools needed, it's probably more of a job than the average T owner could handle on his own.
PS - Unfortunately, some of us (me) are usually too dumb to recognize a job that's too big until it's too late.
I see that Snyder's have a Warford Trans support listed on page T 38. A little pricey but it could be modified and used maybe. Just a thought.
Bob, Kenny has the support, all he needs is a long bolt, a couple of springs, a nut or two, and maybe a cotter pin. The head of the bolt is positioned at the top, just under the back of the transmission, then a spring which rests on the top of the bracket, insert said assembly through the bracket from the top, then the other spring which rests against the bottom of the bracket, then the nut. Drilling the bolt for a cotter spring could be done, or just double nut it. Dave
yes thats what i need...
or picture of it to try and figure out.
Okay, so I had a few minutes to sneak out to the garage and take some pictures for you all of the shift lever assembly:
Hope these help.
Yes don't have all that I just have top cap with shifter.thanks
Glad that is helpful. If there is anything else that is needed (photos, info, measurements) I will do my best to provide.
That spring looks like one from a car or pickup hood latch.
That might be a source for that piece.
Good eye Herb!
Clayton, I just picked one up yesterday laying in the dust at the local scrapyard.
It was on my mind when I saw the photo.
Thanks, Clayton. I just got word from an older former T owner last night of a possible Chicago mark E that may be available. That would give me enough for parts. MAYBE it has a shifter. If not, your pictures will help me get one made.
thanks the hunt for parts are on.
Plan a visit to Hershey, PA oct. 9-10 - you'll find lots of sellers with Model T parts there that don't use computers, mayby even someone with Chicago trans parts
Does the top of transmission come off easy I have the shifter with all parts but it looks like the threads are stripped on both and think its not the right shifter to.
The top cap (that holds the shift lever in) threads on pretty easy....that is how I fill my gear box with oil
The shift tower/top plate assembly should also come off easy, just 4 bolts and a gasket.
Still need parts to bolt to frame and other parts