How do you hang the gas tank under the cowl??

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: How do you hang the gas tank under the cowl??
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James J. Lyons III - West Virginia on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 05:19 pm:

I'm working on a 26 Roadster. I have the tank.... I have the straps with the "hook" on the ends... I have an empty cowl.

So what do the "hooks" hook in to? When I look up there, I can see a metal brace that appears to be in line with where the straps loop around to, but all that is there is a small rectangular slot - certainly not big enough to hook the strap in to to secure the tank. I'm thinking there may be a part I am missing.

Any help would be appreciated.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 05:42 pm:

There should be two tabs right behind the dash. The tabs are part of the upper reinforcement bars. These are at location "D" in the picture.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James J. Lyons III - West Virginia on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 05:51 pm:

Ken - What are the tabs hooked to? On those re-inforcement bars, I can see two small slots that may have held something.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James J. Lyons III - West Virginia on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 05:52 pm:

Never mind! I see that you say they are part of the bars.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Daron - Brownsburg IN on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 06:22 pm:

Just a reminder,there are pads on the straps and two more on the top side of tank,so it doesn't wear a hole in tank.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James J. Lyons III - West Virginia on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 06:46 pm:

I have the pads.... just trying to figure out what I need to hang it. A clearer close up of the area in question ... from Ken diagram would be great if someone has it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 06:56 pm:

The picture came from the service manual (Black Book) on page 279. That may be clearer with a magnifying glass. You need to hook those in place from the front of the tabs (front of car) before the tank is in place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:13 pm:

Well, I looked but the pictures of a Tudor I did a little work on already had the dash in place. Someone else may have some pictures. If push comes to shove, you could loosen the dash and pull it back. The tabs are clearly visible behind the dash.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James J. Lyons III - West Virginia on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:22 pm:

Ken - Ok, I understand.. but are they solidly mounted/welded to the re-inforcement strip? Or, do they clip on somehow? It isn't clear if I am to clip the tabs in place before installing the tank or if I am supposed to clip the hooks in place. Thanks very much for your help.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:23 pm:

As Jack says, don't forget the pads. There's two on the firewall also.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:27 pm:

The hooks go into the hole on the tabs. They just hang there until you position the tank. The other threaded end of the straps go through the firewall.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:30 pm:

The tabs are stamped out of and part of the reinforcing bars. The tabs don't move. Bend the hook, if necessary, to get it into the hole.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:33 pm:

Rather than "Bend the hook" I should have said; "Open up the hook".


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dale L Myers on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:37 pm:

This is what's in my 26 roadster.
Hope this helps.




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By James J. Lyons III - West Virginia on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:45 pm:

Ken and Dale... Thank you both very much. That answers my question. Those tabs are missing on my car. There is a small rectangular slot where the tab goes. My guess is there is a "T" machined on the hidden part of your tab in the photo and it fits into the slot (90 degrees off) and then you rotate it 90 degrees into position to lock it into place.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:55 pm:

Different body builders may have done the tab differently. The "H" numbered Tudor was just stamped out of the bar. Hard to loose that way. If you have a slot there, you could make tabs as you say.

Thanks for the pictures Dale.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 07:57 pm:

Looks like Dales bracket has a crack on the inboard side as well... ws


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dale L Myers on Sunday, August 11, 2013 - 09:36 pm:

It does look like a crack in the photo. It was a little sliver of steel on the edge of the stamping and it's shadow.


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