I wonder if this is the car owned by the guy I bumped into at a petrol station in Port Augusta when I was crossing Australia in 2011? Anyway, if well restored and mostly correct a very good buy for USD35000 considering how rare it is.
http://www.justauto.com.au/justcars/buy_and_sell/for_sale/JCW3358334/?backurl=ht tp%3A%2F%2Fwww.justauto.com.au%2Fnuxeo%2Fsite%2Fjustcars%2Fsearch%3Fsearch_categ ory%3DVintageCar&backtext=Back+to+results
This is "Truly Fair",the ex Reg Jamieson car found at Hindmarsh, Adelaide in 1950. It is a beautiful Duncan & Fraser bodied Ford. Wish I had the money...
David, if you or Allan don't buy it I'm guessing it's heading to probably Melbourne or Sydney. It could go overseas as well being that Australian Customs are not doing what they should be with regards to antique cars being exported from Australia. For my Carnet for the trip I had to get approval from Canberra to export my car. Customs never asked to see that document and the same happened when I sold a 1920s Fiat to Japan a few years ago.
Still trying to convince 'she who must be obeyed' that I need to make an offer on this T!!
Thank you for posting the link. What a beautiful car. I posted the photo from the web site as it will usually not be available after the sale. And if we post it here, it will often be available for reference to others much longer.
I wish more of the countries used the method of registering a car and the license tag stayed with that car. On page 31 of Norm Darwin’s “The History of Ford in Australia” is a picture of a 1912 Duncan and Fraser Model T taken in 1957. Similar light colored body, natural spoked wheels, from the small photo the body and fenders look similar. The license tag on that one reads 153 538. I wonder if it might be the same car? The credit for the 1957 photo was to B. Chantrel – perhaps he is related to David Chantrel?
I believe Henry Ford could have easily “up-scaled” the Model T Ford and he could have dominated both the low end and middle range car market, if he had been willing to do so. He sort-of did that in 1907 when he introduced the Model R Runabout as a deluxe version of the Model N Ford. At that time the N sold for $600 and the R sold for $750.
Again thank you for the link.
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Hap, no problem.
Kerry, being a "T man" I'm guessing would get you a slight discount. I'm sure the owner doesn't want a big block and Mickey Thompson tyres fitted to the car.
Wonder if the owner has asked the National Museum in Canberra or the Motor Museum in SA if they're interested?
This photo was taken at possibly the same place on the 2010 National Tour.
It has been (inexpertly) filled in between the car and left photo border.
B Chantrell is likely David's dad. Hap, the car has been well known in veteran car circles in South Australia, and is likely the same car as shown in the early book. I believe it is the earliest Duncan and Fraser car known, other than a one off dual cowl tourer specially built for a duncan family member. That car still exists too.
The present owner has had the original block repaired after the rear web was broken out many years ago, so the car is trully an original survivor, and it has been well maintained rather than restored. It is a very desireable car, but I can only drive one at a time, and don't have that sort of money to invest.
It is a car to be treasured.
Allan from down under.
B. Chantrell, or Bob Chantrell Jnr. is my father. Not to be confused with Bob Chantrell Snr., my late grandfather. I can remember driving with dad to see Norm Darwin at his home in Castlemaine, Victoria (about 6 hours away) with a heap of stuff and proof reading chapters of his book "A History of Ford Australia". That photo was just one piece.
Back to "Truly Fair". I can only support Allan's well written sentiments. Ian has been a wonderful custodian of a valuable piece of Ford 'T' history. I would truly love this car aptly named "Truly Fair" by the late Reg Jamieson, but finances don't allow where the heart wants to follow...the sad reality of life!!! Here are a couple of more photos of "Truly Fair" from the 100th National 'T' Rally at Echuca in 2008.
A very unique and rare piece of Australian Model T and coach building history. I too would love to own it! Possibly the rarest Model T existing in Australia. I hope it does find a good home with someone who will continue to use and display it rather than hide it away.
I second Warwick's sentiments. A beautiful example of D&F workmanship. Regards, John
That's one snazzy looking Model T. Looks like Duncan & Fraser upscaled it quite a bit.
OK, now has a SOLD slapped on it, who bought it??
Withdrawn from sale.
David, one more question please? Is that gas generator for the lights a unit made in France or Australia?
A friend in England has one and would like more information on it, but he does not know how to contact you.
His unit looks like this one and he needs more information on how to make it work.
My understanding it is by the Colonial Light Company of Melbourne. We had one years ago and it appeared to be either a rebadged Deitz or a Deitz made under licence.
James, The generator operates the same as any other. Water in the top tank carbide in the bottom round knob in the center adjusts the flow of water to drip on the carbide the tap would be where the gas comes out to the lights. There should be a seal between the top and bottom tanks so the gas can only exit through the tap. A Dykes book would give him any extra info he may need. There is other threads showing Ford type generators on here at the moment which will also help him decide if it is all there the construction is similar