I just found two N.O.S. Tail lamp brackets I believe for TT Truck, one has an extra plate riveted to it, what is the difference Bob
I think you have two Ford-O tail light brackets.
One to mount under the body and one to mount on the spare tire goose neck bracket.
Logic says there had to be a tail light/license plate bracket, particularly on the later trucks supplied with bodies. However, I looked in the TT parts book (Effective March 15, 1927), which shows the various TT parts and I couldn't find a TT tail lamp/license plate bracket of any type. I'm not challenging you - just curious - what makes you think they are for a TT?
Thank you, I just looked in the T-7 book and it shows the one with extra bracket is for 1926 roadster pick up, Bob
They were used on the non-starter cars and trucks. You will find them in the regular T parts book.
Another type I found I think this one is TT Bob
I took taillight brackets of a TT fire truck back in the 80's. It mounted under the bead and came straight down, on the back side there was a place for a rod to hold the license plate. I found the second one at a swap meet after a 20+ years search. I had to make the other two for the trailer to match. Have any of you ever seen any of them. Of course mine is not a perfect T, but I sure enjoy it.
The brackets you found are commonly called "butcher knife" brackets and were for the '25-'27 pickups and the '24-'27 TTs with either the express or flat/stake beds. They're rare and hard to find. I need one. Is it for sale? In your last picture the bracket is bolted with 3 bolts to a vertical bracket that is being reproduced. Henry Petrino, I don't have a TT parts book like you but I can't find any evidence that TTs ever had electric tail lights. That might explain why theres so many Ford-O taillamps available. When I'm at the Benson Ford Archives next week I aim to prove this one way or the other
I suspect, but certainly am only guessing, that the early TT's like mine probably came with a tail light and the wire rolled up and the light taped to the chassis (or whatever) awaiting installation by the body installer. My '18 has a year correct Model T tail light mounted with a clearly non-Ford bracket to the rear/bottom of the after-market wood bed. Of course it surely could have just been added after market and, as you suggest, the truck came with none.
This was on a 1922 TT flatbed we restored some years ago and replaced the oil taillight with an electric unit.
The license bracket would be the same as that used with the two-piece 1915 taillight bracket shown below.
Your first bracket is the one I was talking about.I used two of the last bracket shown to make two more like the first one. I believe that it was a non Ford item.
Bob: The first photo you posted has the pickup bracket that is used with the electric tailight too. All that needs to be done is to remove the oilight/license plate bracket. I agree with George that it is used on the TT trucks too. Good find.
Several years ago, someone posted a picture of two TT chassis's for sale at the dealership. I had always wondered how a chassis could have come with tail and cowl lights when there were no cowl or bed to attach them to. The picture clearly showed them just bolted to miscellaneous holes in the top of the frame rail. Im trying to remember now whether they had brackets or not.
This is the late 25 through 27 TT tail light Bracket.