Looking for a brass part

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Looking for a brass part
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 08:23 am:

I'm searching for a GOOD mounting bracket for the brass horn bulb for my '12 Roadster pickup. Not the flimsy kind like I've already gone through two of from current various suppliers. I saw what was no doubt an original bracket on a 1910 Buick yesterday at a car show, it looked like the part that screws to the body with the little "arm" sticking out was somehow crafted out of one solid piece of brass, but not sure how they got the "round part" where the bulb threads onto attached to it. At any rate, it sure looked a lot more stout than what I've been able to find. Anyone know of, or have for sale, something better than what you can buy currently? Thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 08:30 am:

Tim,

I was tired of constantly soldering the repro brass horn mount too (seemed to happen most often during car shows :-().

I drilled through the round part that the horn bulb screws into, and then put a small brass bolt through the round portion, into the curved bracket that screws on to the wood body.

Now, the horn mount is "flexible" so if someone pulls down on the bulb it just rotates instead of breaking with any movement.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 09:46 am:

The part you are talking about is very poorly designed. I typically cut off about 1/2 inch of the length, then drill and tap so that , 8-32 screw can be inserted. I clean everything and then silver solder together.

It is too bad a good reproduction is not made by anyone.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 10:27 am:

Thanks Rob & Royce...both good ideas...I've thought about doing what Royce suggested earlier, just haven't had the nerve to try it. Now I think maybe I will. Really both good ideas...hmmm, since I have TWO of these cheap b......d's maybe I'll do one each way!
Royce, I'm gonna try and find your thread about how to mount a tire with the wheel on the car, I had it before the computer crashed and lost it. If you see this and maybe have it saved on yours and can send me the link, I'd be appreciative if you could PM it to me! Gonna need to replace a white tire or two on some otherwise very very nice wood wheels that I don't want to screw up!
Thanks to both of you!
Tim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 10:35 am:

Would this part on Ebay help.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BRASS-MOUNTING-BRACKET-RUBES-VETERAN-VINTAGE-CAR-HORN-/3 70409963319?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item563e277f37


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 10:48 am:

Royce's pictures on how to mount a clincher tire with the wheel in place was posted in this thread (among others): http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/257047/301983.html?1343386992


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 02:26 pm:

Jay, I think the one you posted is the same as the weak ones that are being objected to. I often wondered if it was made weak so it broke before the screws were torn out of the body. I have re-soldered mine twice but have been more careful lately and it has worked fine for the last couple of years.
Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 06:53 pm:

I had one of those repro's on my '15 Touring and repaired it a few times. It's a bad design. Then I found an original one on ebay and bought it. It has a brass strap which encloses the bulb tube, then flattens out at the ends and has two screws to attach it to the top of the dummy door. It's a much better design. Maybe the earlier ones were like the repro's? (I sold the car, or I'd attach a photo.)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R.V. Anderson on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 08:02 pm:



This is the bracket that Mike describes, It is correct for '15. After this bracket came out, Ford discontinued the earlier soldered one and listed the new riveted strap type for replacement on the earlier cars. This '15 type strap bracket is riveted together around the tubing, permanently fastening the two together, although the photo shows my reproduction separately from the tubing. This is unlike the earlier type which threaded together.

The bracket shown on ebay is the "long" type. This was intended for use on the outside of the car. When the bulb was moved to the inside of the door panel, the tube section was shortened by abut 50% and the reed was moved from its position inside the ferrule on the end of the flex tubing at the horn, to inside the horn bulb ferrule. The stem on the bracket was shortened in order to allow the driver's knee to (mostly) clear it.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 08:36 pm:

Thanks, RV -- A picture is worth a thousand words. :-) This may not be "correct" for the earlier T's, but it surely does work better!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Monday, August 19, 2013 - 08:44 pm:

Jay-thanks for trying, but yep, that's the same one that I've gone through two of already. So fellas...DON'T buy one!!! And wow, $36 U.S.??? Thank God I "only" paid $17 each at Snyders!!!

I've now got three good ideas here thanks to you fellas....now gotta decide which way to go, but no matter which, it'll be better than that other one.

Thanks a bunch! And for the tire mounting thread.This time I'm printing it out on good ol' fashioned paper!!!
Tim


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