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Herb,
Great photos. If you have a little more information on where they came from etc. that would be even better.
Note the touring body is NOT a drop frame touring body, as they had a cur out for the rear fender that looked a little like the cut out on the 1926-27 improved touring. Below is a UK drop frame showing that cut out in the door – it was listed for sale on the Tuckett Brother’s site around Jun see: http://tuckettbrothers.co.uk/ I do not know if it is still listed for sale or not.
So if that is 1925 and Copenhagen, that would be some evidence that Copenhagen also assembled the regular body and chassis – at least when the photo was taken. From memory [not as reliable as notes] I believe during that same time the Drop Frame cars were also assembled in some locations. Does anyone have the link to previous threads reference Copenhagen and DF/Drop Frame assembly?
You can also easily compare the 21 inch demountable on the back of the touring with the 30 x 3 1/2 demountable clincher on the front of the Ton Truck chassis.
It appears that the bodies were wheeled over to the assembly line on the carts and then lifted up to be installed?
Great photo!
Respectfully submitted,
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How about these Hap?
Note that the top saddles are installed in the two touring bodies in the first photo.
Here's a link to the full set of factory photos I have on file.
http://s290.photobucket.com/user/fordmodelt/library/Model%20T%20Ford%20Factory%2 0Copenhagen%20Denmark
Hap, I have a dream of once to be able to spend a week or two at the Benson Ford center digging down in the boxes with material from Copenhagen.
I have some ideas of how things worked, also based on what Sam Roberts have found in Benson Ford when he researched for his book "Henrys Cars for Europe" about Model Y & C. In that book he describes a lot about the various assembly plants in Europe.
I believe the assembly plant got material from both USA and Manchester. In another thread
http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/331880/375948.html?1376910635
we discussed Niels Andersens 1925 Touring which seems to have a mix of UK Deepframe parts and regular US parts.
The European plants where not autonomous, but the European management in UK was apparently involved in many decisions of how to deal with various issues like what to do with 25 of old type bumpers delivered with the new Model Y in 1935. The reply to the assembly plant manager in Barcelona was to use those old type first and then the new type.
Sp 25 Model Y's assembled in Spain had old type bumpers from new.
Also later in 1937 they assembled Modelo C with running chassis from UK and just the Cabrio-limousine body from Germany while the same was assembled in Copenhagen with everything from Germany (I have one :-).
No reason to think it was not different 10 years earlier.
Oh - I forgot to mention that thos pictures are most likely Ford ordered pictures and it is photographer Elfelt that have taken them. Elfelt was one of the most prominent photographic establishment as they called them self - appointed to be Photographer at the Royal Danish court. They have made numerous photographs from various enterprises in Copenhagen and Denmark.
I think the original glassplates are at storage at the Copenhagen City Museum.
This is how it looked outside:
The picture above is from a few years before it all looked like this:
Herb & Jay,
Thank you both for the leads on the photos. I did not see any dates in the lower right hand corner like some USA photos had. I wish I knew how they determined they were 1925 and not 1924 models etc.
Michael,
I hope we can discover more about what was done and approximately when. In the photos Jay posted there are both Drop Frame and regular frame cars & parts.
So much more still to rediscover. Thank you all for helping us find additional information.
Respectfully submitted,
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The clarity of those photos are quite remarkable! Some of the clearest examples I've seen of a Ford Factory. The other thing I find remarkable is the cleanliness of the factory, the entire place is simply spotless!
Jimmy
Very good, fascinating to see the rear ends get a bit of a spin on an electric motor before final car assembly.
James, the Copenhagen factory was a "pattern factory" of its era. It may very well be that Elfelt not just showed up one day and was allowed to walk around and take pictures. It was a setup - maybe done on a sunday. Also - the factory was opened in 1924 so in 1925 it was still pretty new.
As i mentioned in my previous post - it is most likely made on glass plates with low sensity and hence long exposure. Thats why there is no persons on the pictures and the band are most likely stopped.
Michael this is the only one I remember with a person in it