Need help cowl panel

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Need help cowl panel
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff cauley on Sunday, August 25, 2013 - 01:20 pm:

I just picked up this what looks to be a 24-25 high cowl panel and fire wall the fire wall is 28 inches side to side but i'm having problems finding side panels for it are there any shops on line that sell them because every were I look is all 28 up stuff


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Sunday, August 25, 2013 - 01:55 pm:

That looks like a Roadster, Touring or C-Cab cowl.

I've re-skinned and repaired a few cowl side panels but I've never seen complete replacement panels or assemblies. There's a metal framing that would be tough to duplicate without dies. The door hinge pillar(s) is part of that piece and the whole assembly is riveted and spot welded together from the sub rails up (depending on model).

Your best bet is to locate a donor car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Sunday, August 25, 2013 - 02:51 pm:

Try Model T Haven in Iola, KS. Be aware that any side panels you find may very likely have rusty bottoms.

Check out their web site. They have a large "back yard" that could be a late '20's car junk yard with lots of parts cars. I've bought from them and thought the prices were very reasonable.

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff cauley on Sunday, August 25, 2013 - 05:09 pm:

looks like ill have to form some out of steel then


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Allan Richard Bennett on Monday, August 26, 2013 - 02:19 am:

Jeff, you should not use galvanised sheet as shown in your photo, nor zinc anneal sheet. Black body steel is much more forgiving and easier to work.

Hope this helps.

Allan from down under.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Scott Conger on Monday, August 26, 2013 - 06:05 am:

Pretty much all the T suppliers sell the lower-forward panels that fit under the cowl, but you'll do better to purchase a body, complete.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Monday, August 26, 2013 - 10:47 am:

Howells has left and right front quarter panels for "'22-'25 roadster" in their online catalog:
http://goo.gl/dyGrhd

LH side Rh side

If they haven't got the panels on the shelf you may have to wait, though..


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ken Kopsky, Lytle TX on Monday, August 26, 2013 - 02:15 pm:

Oh yeah, I forgot about them but they've been off my Christmas list for a long time. Wait indeed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Joseph Geisler on Monday, August 26, 2013 - 05:04 pm:

Phone them first (Howells) and go to the show where they are setting up to get your panels. There are Hoarer stories of the new ownership. But they can do good work. The original owner deceased, I think, use to be the best!!! If it wasn't right you'd resend it back along with the rusted panel and it came back corrected. I have started with as much as you have in the photo and built really nice cars. Only people who know me will attest to that comment. They are ALL just parts in stacks when they were made prior to assembly into cars. . Keeping them correct for the car year and style is the secret. Or build yourself a delivery truck. Or a hot rod if that's your desire.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By William L Vanderburg on Monday, August 26, 2013 - 06:11 pm:

I hope you meant "horror" stories....lol


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff cauley on Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 05:57 pm:

was going to try to build a Roadster few pices of metal at time really want a Roadster but being a father and a hubby with a stay home wife all I have money for is fiberglass body but being I want a steel body I figer I buy panels here and there till I have them all


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Tuesday, August 27, 2013 - 10:55 pm:

Jeff,
Welcome to the Forum and the T world. What is the truck on your profile? Is it complete and you're looking to start another project, or is that what the body is for?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By jeff cauley on Wednesday, August 28, 2013 - 09:42 pm:

little info about me im 25 from Owensboro ky have a great stay at home wife and little girl this will be my first t model as I know its not ever going to be a true model t but I was thanking with using true sheet metal from swap meets and patch panels I can get a almost true body this is going to be a family project so should be fun


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 12:15 am:

Keep your eyes open as you drive thru the country side. Somewhere there is a rusty hulk just waiting for you.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Thursday, August 29, 2013 - 12:17 am:

Jeff,
The reason I asked is, I have both roadster side panels, back panel, and turtledeck that I plan to sell at Hershey. I acquired these over the years, but, I don't think that's what you need. Go to www.fordwood.com and click on T roadsters, then 23-25 roadster, and look at all the wood you need. T bodies were basically built of wood then skinned with metal.(I've never bought anything from fordwood.com, but their site is a good visual aid.} Starting with one piece of metal at a time may get you the skin, but, the bones (wood) is a big deal that's not practical to get a piece at a time. You'll find that box of wooden pieces will probably cost you as much as a fairly complete nonrunning T with a body! I still don't know exactly what you have, but, I'd recommend you get it running and drivable first and see what you run across. Hacks are great for families and are not hard to build a little at a time--they can be as simple or elaborate as your skill and wallet allows.


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