On my work route I came across a brace of T's. My interest sort of got rekindled, and surfing the net I found this forum. Lots of nifty stuff read. I'll probably be lurking for a while, but I'm entertaining a T as a project in the future.
Her's some photos of what I found this week. Comments are more than welcome. I'm finding the Center Door most interesting...
As the saying goes, welcome to the affliction, Dennis. Getting into the T world is a spectrum. At the red end is buying a project (lots of sweat). At the purple end is buying a T already done so you can enjoy driving it right away (very cool). A lot of cars are somewhere in between. The ideal way is to do both. Get the good car already done so you can drive it while you work on the project. If circumstances dictate that you choose one or the other, I recommend the latter approach, for a couple of reasons. One is that everything takes longer than you think it will. Projects often drag on for years, causing some folks to lose interest. The other reason is that it's cheaper. Most restorations, even doing most of the work yourself, cost more than the value of the finished car. I'd rather let the other guy do the spending and take the loss when I buy his baby.
Whichever way you go, you'll find lots of help here to get it going or keep it going.
Thanks, Steve! Indeed I am well aware of projects as I have these as well:
I do like to learn and tinker...
I love both, but would prefer the '27ish runabout as a project since it's much less wood in its body - and none of it is structural. Any rotted wood parts in the centerdoor body makes it a big job to restore since it's basically a wood body with nailed on sheet metal.
heck, I would make the runabout running & breaking, make sure the wheels are tight and drive it as is w/o windscreen - poor '30:s youth style while doing a ground up restoration on the centerdoor sedan.
Unfortunately, since the 60's there are no more objects like that where I live..
Is that a Lakewood, or a Monza? I've had both when they were just old cars...
If you like Corvairs, check out Jay Leno's website, he has a couple of them. Here is a link to a video of his Corvair rampside pickup:
I like the part where he pretty much sums up the collector car modus operendi, "You buy a car for $3000.00, sink 50 grand in the restoration, then later sell the car for 14 grand." So true!
I've obviously lost my sanity before, so if I lose it again getting both as a package id a possibility
It seems that these may have been found and dragged out together though- to my casual observation it looks like the axles may have been swapped. The sedan has wires, more correct for the roadster with the demountable artilleries suitable for the sedan. The roadster has a spare mount for the lugged wires while the sedan still has a demountable spare mount on the rear, Hmmm...
One thing about old cars. You must REALLY want what you buy (price appreciation not included in that). On the other hand one can counterbalance that a little if one thinks about the thousands one will lose driving a new car off a lot (but very little).
I've been an on and off member of CORSA for years. Great club. I got to be a steward at the convention in Lexington several years ago... quite a blast!
Bluegrass land and Model T makes me associate to music.. (sorry for the thread drift)
Rich girl rides in a Cadillac Eight
Poor girl she does the same
My gal rides in a T-Model Ford
But she gets there just the same
She'll be coming round the mountain Charmin' Betsy
She'll be coming round the mountain Cora Lee poor thing
And if I never see you again
Good gal remember me
Rich girl wears the best perfume
Poor girl she does the same
My gal don't wear no perfume at all
But you can smell her just the same
This one, "Riding in an old model T" is pure instrumental but still fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSzbaAVAxN8
Look closely at the wood in the centerdoor. Could be lots of work and money. The 26 roadster would be quicker and probably a lot cheaper to get drivable. I'd try for a package deal.
I'll have time to take off and nose around them tomorrow, so I reckon I will. Maybe get motor numbers. If anyone has hints or a link I'm all ears I know to look for wood and rust.
Dennis if you get the rdster we have stanchions and top and bottom windshield frames for sale email@example.com
You'll find the serial # above the water inlet on the LH side of the engine. Here's a link for dating: http://www.mtfca.com/encyclo/sernos.htm
The roadster is 26/27, likely a 27 since it has the headlamps mounted on a cross bar between the fenders. From december '25 the engine # was also stamped on top of the frame, approximately where the front passengers feet are. Matching numbers isn't critical for value, condition is #1.
The centerdoor was produced 1915-1923, this looks like one of the later years of production. If the car has been there a long time without a head on the engine, the engine may be expensive to repair, early 20's engines are cheap & reasonable easy to find so you may have better luck with a replacement engine.
Don't pay too much - check finished auctions at ebay for a guide.
Hey, looks like these same cars were sold a week ago in Indiana??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1922-Model-T-center-door-/181198300343?pt=US_Cars _Trucks&hash=item2a3042a4b7#ht_500wt_1182 $1950 for the Centerdoor,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1927-Model-T-Roadster-/181198293314?pt=US_Cars_Tr ucks&hash=item2a30428942#ht_500wt_1182 $2,500 for the runabout.
That's fair auction results - it's about what they're worth.
I'm quite obliged Roger, I'd not thought of that!
These two probably won't be for me, The photos in the eBay ads were taken where I saw the cars, so I expect they have been sold. It's not like I was going top do anything tomorrow-or next week, anyway.
Looks like they sold on EBAY and awaiting pickup, however, if the winning bidder defaults, you might can get them at a better deal. Might be worth leaving your number with the owner, just in case.