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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, September 02, 2013 - 11:45 am:

Work Hard.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Charlie B actually in Toms River N.J. on Monday, September 02, 2013 - 11:50 am:

Poor week end here weather wise. No car shows. We did have a garbage pick-up so that's a plus. LOL.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Monday, September 02, 2013 - 01:23 pm:

Most of the Mexican jobs are in China now and soon to move to Viet Nam. Cost of labor is a big factor, but what is moving most jobs off shore is the regulations that make it impossible to legally employ someone. This country is quickly becoming a country of two classes, the elite and the serfs, and is not far from slavery again. The sad thing is that the serfs seem to support this move by calling for more restrictive regulations for employers, making it impossible for a small business to start up with out a bank of lawyers to get past the regulations. Small businesses have always been the back bone of this country, the small business is the laborer's chance to leave the labor class and become a business owner and employer.
The new work force is made up of young people who were not allowed to work as kids (because of regulations), so they have no work ethic or any idea of what work is.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, September 02, 2013 - 02:29 pm:

VC immigrants here have gone back to Saigon for a visit, and say the pollution is so bad they can't breathe there. The public bears the cost of unregulated private enterprise.

I have started five small businesses here in SoCalif since 2000, and don't find the regulations too much a burden. The costs just get passed through.

I know a very successful small business owner who will (almost) lie, cheat and steal to avoid paying taxes. The backbone of his income is from govt agencies. He doesn't connect that without taxes he would not have a business.

He is right, however, to resent that big businesses evade and avoid taxes. While we were bailing out the big banks, they were funneling their profits through the Cayman Islands, which has no income tax.

Regulations are not stopping Asian and middle Eastern immigrants from starting lots of new businesses here.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Halpin on Monday, September 02, 2013 - 02:55 pm:

Since I didn't have my Model T in the parade this year and I don't have a job anymore, I accidentally slept through the Labor Day Parade. :-(


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Monday, September 02, 2013 - 10:26 pm:

Hey Ricks,
Do you I-9 all your employees? Are you aware that you are forbidden from hiring an undocumented worker, but if you discriminate against an undocumented worker, he can sue you for discrimination, and the government will provide his (or her) lawyers for free? Also, you are not allowed to help a applicant fill out the I-9, and if they put in more than the one from column A or one from column B plus one from column C, you can be sued for requiring too much ID? Do you have your MSDS file on hand and updated annually? And if you do anything with soil, do you have an MSDS for that as well? OSHA is another problem, if you have a toilet, it must have window screening that is small enough to keep flys out, but it must also have window screening that is large enough to let the flys get out.
I used to employ up to 30 people years ago, but I found a way to eliminate all their jobs by changing the way I operate.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bill Everett on Tuesday, September 03, 2013 - 10:20 am:

Gustaf;

When I first started working in agriculture in 1977, I remember some rumors about OSHA requiring farmers to have toilets every 100 yards or something like that.

I also remember much discussion by our customers about cabs being required on tractors of certain HP or larger. I ALSO remember some people objecting to the use of air conditioners in farm tractors as being wasteful. I thought at the time of suggesting that they get into a cabbed tractor in the summer's heat here, not turning on the A/C while running a few rows, and after an hour or so, asking them how they enjoyed their experience.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Tuesday, September 03, 2013 - 06:37 pm:

Bill, I remember my father disliking cabs, on combines in particular, he claimed that the operator could not hear the machine. An air conditioned cab keeps the operator comfortable enough that he (or she) is better able to monitor the machine through the vibrations and use of electronic monitors. It also makes it easy to stay on the machine for 12 or more hours with out a break, getting much more work done. I have never opposed anything to make the user more comfortable and more productive (mainly because it was often me) but many of the current regulations do not have any concern for the worker, a great example is when an Idaho construction company was fined several thousand dollars, because two of its employees left their work and went across the street to help dig a man out of a collapsed trench. They were able to save his life, but because their employer did not have the correct safety equipment for them to be working in a trench, he was heavily fined. It did not matter that he did not have any trenches in his job. The only thing that saved the company was when the State of Idaho announced that all OSHA employees would be politely asked to vacate the State that OSHA backed down. OSHA does not care if their regulations result in deaths, just that they be followed.
In the 90s, outhouses were required to be within a 1/4 mile, there are all kinds of rumors about OSHA, but the real stuff is bad enough. OSHA regulations also require that wash water and drink water not come from the same source, how many businesses have two sources for water?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Tuesday, September 03, 2013 - 08:35 pm:

Company I worked for got fined $75 for every garbage can that did not have a lid properly covering it. That was CAL OSHA. Got to love em....


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