Emergency brake spring

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Emergency brake spring
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 02:38 pm:

I am trying to install the clip/spring that holds the two parts of the emergency brake handle apart at the top of the handle.

There are two little rivets that hold the clip on. Anyone have any experience with this aggravation? Do they go in from the inside out or he outside in, and what and how do you create a backer to hammer the rivet flat?

Thanks guys!

Michaelhandle


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Patrick on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 02:48 pm:

It's not the way Ford did it, but I used steel pop rivets with a backing plate on the spring side. Jim Patrick


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 02:55 pm:

So the rivet went in from the outside ??

What do you use for a backing plate? Forgive my ignorance, but I didn't think you needed a backing plate for pop rivets ...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ROBERT BERGSTADT on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 03:03 pm:

I don't worry, I use the accessory spring T-3463-RE Goes on the cross shaft, takes about 30 seconds to install, we have them if you need them,Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Cameron Whitaker on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 06:19 pm:

I second Robert's recommendation!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jay - In Northern California on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 06:47 pm:

I'm with Robert's recommendation Too. Got them on all our T's.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Thursday, September 05, 2013 - 07:48 pm:

Thanks..just ordered one.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 03:11 am:

I do not know about all years, but all the non-rebuilt originals I have worked on did not have rivets at all. I am not sure how they were attached. Most I have don't have enough left of the spring to tell. Some form of spot weld? The thin metal part of the handle got punched in some way that leaves permanent dimples in it. They usually (not always) line up with the holes in the flat spring. I drill out the dimples to fit and use the supplied rivets. Looks good, works okay (usually). I often add a spring below also because the replacement flat spring is sometimes a little weak. However the last past one I did is nice and strong which I am glad for because it is on my "mostly '13" speedster which has no running boards or side aprons and I didn't want an added spring which could be seen.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerome Hoffman, Hays KS on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 06:34 am:

My guess is that the spring was installed by riveting the spring on. But where did the rivet come from? It,s formed from metal in the handle, thus giving a smother surface.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 10:34 am:

At first I was going to suggest they were spot welded (primitive job, (yet not perfected in the pre teens yet) however after looking at this NOS handle, it appears the handle was punched with two prongs that penetrated two holes in the spring. The spring steel would've required 2-3 more steps (annealing etc) to accomplish the same thing. This also left the hand side of the handle smoother. Probably had a machine that smashed the two tabs tight as in a rivet style tight. All I can say is that the ebay buyer was HAPPY to get this for about $50 with 20 bids against it! I managed to get two at a sale in a box and used the other which was even nicer. They were tarnished from not being painted so the paint you see is mine. I think the pair was one dollar. Good luck finding a new handle! ws

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So its all good except the chinaman ratchet pawl is rounded and wont grab the hardened NOS quadrant after 2 seasons. Hong Fu probably was hoping car jump into gear and run over Yankees dog; or worse; run into back of American built car.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Friday, September 06, 2013 - 11:56 am:

I used small drive rivits and then piened the end of the rivit flat. Worked perfect for me.


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