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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Bishop, San Diego on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 08:59 pm:

At the risk of exposing my ignorance, I need help with a question. The guy who's helping me rebuild my engine ordered a new camshaft(Stipe?) and standard size cam bearings from Lang's. They sent the camshaft, but don't have the "standard" size bearings he ordered and won't for awhile.
I've called around and can't find anyone who has "standard size" cam bearings (they're all undersized to different degrees), or anyone who will re-pour them to standard size.
What's the solution (he's out of town right now)? Thank you for any help.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 09:38 pm:

Did you try Chaffin's? That's where I got mine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 09:43 pm:

They can be reamed to size.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Bishop, San Diego on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 09:55 pm:

Steve-- that's the first place I called. Dave says they only have undersized.

Jack-- aren't the standard size bigger than the undersized? (This is where I don't know what I'm talking about). Can you take a .002 or .003 under and ream them to standard, or is it the other way around?
Thank you.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 10:01 pm:

Under size mean to make the hole smaller to makeup for wear. So yes, if you order undersized you could ream to size.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jack Putnam, Bluffton, Ohio on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 10:03 pm:

An undersized bearing is made for a worn surface. Therefore its bore is smaller than "standard"


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Husa on Sunday, September 08, 2013 - 10:54 pm:

When I bought my cam from Chaffin's Dave turned the bearings to size!
I think that the service can be had for customers!
Best wishes!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Bishop, San Diego on Monday, September 09, 2013 - 02:19 am:

Thank you all for your help. I think I understand now. I'll call Dave back and see what he can do.
Thank you again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By joe bell on Monday, September 09, 2013 - 05:52 am:

BJ at Ron's machine in Shannon Ohio is now making them and you can get what ever size you want.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ROBERT BERGSTADT on Monday, September 09, 2013 - 09:07 am:

We have them in stock,Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Monday, September 09, 2013 - 11:07 am:

Bob Bishop,
Didn't I hear you say that Lang's now has the bearings and will ship soon? Maybe I was hearing things. The important thing, wherever you get the bearings is to get them for the later engine. The new camshaft is made for the later bearings and not for the 1917 original type. The front bearing is different. You need one made for year 24-27.

I will be flying to Puyllup Washington Saturday for my grandson Mark's memorial service, and back Sunday evening, so I should be available to help you finish the work on your car starting next week, Sept 16 or thereafter.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Bishop, San Diego on Monday, September 09, 2013 - 03:00 pm:

Robert,
Thank you very much for your offer. I sent you an e-mail to order front and center standard sized cam bearings. I appreciate your help. Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Monday, September 09, 2013 - 03:25 pm:

Norm - Sounds like a quick trip as you mentioned "here Saturday and back Sunday evening" but I live between Puyallup and Sumner, and lots of other "T" guys here too, so if there's anything you need or we could help with Norm, let us know. Not sure about the Tacoma Model T Club, but the Carbon Canyon Model T Ford Club has a website with membership roster, and I think you can access it Norm; run a hard copy of our CCMTFC roster and put it in your pocket, just in case. Sorry about your grandson, and just in case you do have time or could use some "Model T talk" for support, we're here Norm,.....harold


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Norman T. Kling on Monday, September 09, 2013 - 04:11 pm:

Harold, thank you for your offer. We just got home from a car trip up and back and 4 days later got the bad news. He had appeared to be in very good health and one of the last things he said to us was, "these children are the light of my life". He has a brother living nearby and his mother also live in the area, as do the wife and children. We have been keeping in touch, by phone and e-mail, every day. They don't need to entertain guests at this time, but need all the support they can get. They have many friends in the area. He was a star running back for Sumner high and also won a college football scholarship. That was a few years ago. The one good thing I know from this is that he is a Christian, and I know God will take care of him. We don't always know why things like this happen, but maybe, in the grand scheme of things, it will somehow be a greater blessing to someone than it is loss to our family.
Norm


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, September 10, 2013 - 09:28 am:

I have a couple of new cam shaft bearings someone here in Sweden had bought from an US vendor about 20+(?) years ago. Thought I got a bargain at the swap meet, but they have a few thousands larger bearing diameter than standard - they can't be used with any Model T cam shaft new or worn, too much play?? Anybody else experienced that problem?


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