I'm not able to go and have no interest 9:30 a.m. in EMMA, Mo website shows several views of the car www.biddersandbuyers.com/sleeper Bob Sleeper auctioneer 660-584-7019
I think that's a '15. Maybe it has a '13 motor in it...who knows?
Strange looking car?? Bud.
Clearly it is a 1915-1916 style car in appearance and not a 1913. A more direct link to the photos of the car is http://www.biddersandbuyers.com/ads/091513sleeper.htm if that works. It has the brass radiator, louvered hood and metal cowl. Not enough photos or clarity for me to see if it is a very complete 1915 or 1916 or if it is a mixture from several different years. It does not have brass trim on the lights but a late 1915 would be that way as well as a 1916. It is advertised as having been stored indoors and the photos look like it has had a protected life. The photo of the rear seat arm rest shows the 1915-1916 style that did NOT have the metal end caps. If it originally came that way -- it would be a 1915-1916 car. The windshield hinge appears to be the later offset mid 1917-1922 but it is hard to tell from the photo. And that is an easy item to swap out. For anyone planning to go to the auction, recommend review the posting at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/13259.html which discusses the differences between a 1915-1916 and a later 1917-20 model. Note the car also has the later under the axle wishbone and front spring perches that were introduced during 1919.
If someone goes to the auction would you please look on the front seat heel panel for a body letter? Also on the right front floor board riser for a body number or if not there under the front seat on the wooden seat frame. For details on where and what to look for please see: Forum posting “Home for the Holidays” at: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/29/40322.html
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All I did was read you the ad I agree its not a 13
Thanks for posting the link -- we know you know it was not a 1913. The more I looked the more things I saw. Thanks for all you do for our hobby!
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what did it sell for?
Ive not heard
I'm new to the forum, but I own a 1913 Model T Tourer RHD made in Canada, and I live in South Africa.
The vehicle has been in our family since the late 60's and was given to me by my Grandfather when I was born. He had a 1912 Sport runabout which now belongs to my mom and is being restored as well.
According to some, my car has 1912 parts on it, which makes sense, since my grandfather probably restored it from parts for his pride and joy. I want to get it correct now.
I am trying to do the homework to find out was is needed to get the vehicle as close to original as possible and would appreciate your help.
I attached a photo of the front and rear but I have many more closeups to assist in the identification.
Please let me know what you think,
Hartbeespoort, South Africa
I would recommend you start a new thread with your questions. I believe you may get more responses.
That is a pretty Model T and you are very fortunate. You may want to start another thread and have a little better comment content.
It would be fun the way it is. 1913's are definitely black and brass in the US. A lot of 1912's should be black and brass too but folks tend to brassify '12's, as well as 13's. Get Bruce's book and it will shed light on what you would be looking for in the way of parts.
The JB 19 & 100 front lights, etc. would work very well on a 1912 OR with a 1912 body it would make a nice 1912 touring car! Nice dilemma to be in...
Ken in Texas
Thanks Ken and Michael,
I will start a new thread as suggested. I have ordered the encyclopedia CD's and about 4 manuals as suggested.
The stories abound about this car, so it would be great to know the truth. Is there any way I can tell when it was shipped to South Africa etc? What the colour was etc etc? The engine is C5383 and casting is 82913 and there is a P7 on the engine as well. See attached,
I will post the other pics on the new thread for discussion, thanks