Anything similar that a person could make a copy of would be great.
I have an old card table chair you can have.
(Just being my usual a$$) surely you don't expect me to change after all these years.
Had something like that in my first car a 1941 Ford Opera coupe.
Here is a link to one..
Rob: Seems like in my memory, my folks had a 40 or 41 Buick two door (I think business coupe) that had these type seats right behind the front seats. You might try some of the Buick folks on the internet. Thanks again for the videos recently posted. Regards, Tim
The aftermarket drawing looks like the perfect fit for our Model K. The back doors are narrow, so a person wouldn't want to restrict access with a bulky jumpseat.
The 1907/08 K was sold as a seven passenger when jump seats were added, but I've never seen any pictures of them (probably aftermarket). There is plenty of room front to back, but you wouldn't want to narrow the already narrow entrance to the back seat.
(Dennis, I've got your card table..... )
Rob, I would be happy to send you dimensions or details of any of these three seats if they are what you are looking for.
Rob -- Just take some out of an old junk Town Car.
Rob you question makes me think of a stool I have here at the house. It is a short wooden stool with four legs. It might be made of walnut lumber. It is about ten or twelve inches high and rectangular on the top. The top is eight by ten inches or so. In the center there are four finger sized holes that overlap each other. they form a sort of four leaf clover shape.
My dad who was born in 1913 told me that this stool was what he sat on on the back floor of his fathers Chalmers automobile when he was a small child. He was the youngest of six children my grandparents had. I guess they needed to find a spot for him!
I wish that the car was still around, but I am glad that the stool is still here to remind me of the story.
If you can't find the seat you are looking for, you now have the description to make a period correct one to get you going.
I installed a similar seat about 25 years ago in a 1917 Pierce Arrow for my then - employer Fred Tycher. Fred bought the seat from a fellow named Leo Parnagian (spelling uncertain). If I remember correctly Phil Hill at Hill & Vaughan restorations in Beverly hills had a batch of them built, using an original from a early teens Pierce to copy.
I think Leo Parnagian is still around. Perhaps someone is still reproducing these seat assemblies. If so Leo would know who it is.
Royce and all,
thank you. I saw Pierce jump seas in Kansas City (about a 16 Pierce) with seats that have a post that fits on the side. They rotate, and may face either each other, or forward. They also fold up very compactly. Maybe I need to find someone who can copy them.
I don't think Ford offered jump seats, their advertising just said the K would seat seven comfortably with them. I have seen one photo with six passengers, and it looked like two of them were sitting on jump seats. I'll post them if I find them (too much unorganized stuff).
My '08 Locomobile had jump seats that where supported by a single post that was inserted into a pocket in the floor. They also had a bracket that they slipped into on the side of the body that gave them additional support. The seats themselves were similar to the wire type seats found in soda fountains of the day and had upholstery on the seat and the back rest. The nice thing about them was that they were easily removable and stored when not in use. I do not have a picture of them and no longer own the car but I do have something showing them somewhere if you are interested. My '10 Chalmers has jump seats that fold up and to the side when not in use and I do have some pictures of those but cannot post them on the Forum because I do not know how to size them. I can email them to you however if you want to see how they are set up.
Yes, I'd like to see them if you are able to find/send pics. Thank you all for the help,
For the past several years - on & off - I've been trying to remember where this seat belongs....my family never had a K, but they did have an early 40's Ford, and a derelict Military Jeep from the late 40's....not sure which one of those vehicles this came from, (maybe neither!) but perhaps you can get some ideas from its construction so you can fabricate something for your K if you don't find something already made.
Anybody know what vehicle this fits?
I like the thin fold up width, along with the light construction. If I don't find something pre made before or at Hershey, I'll get back to you.
Knox had them also,Bob
Rob - Just sort of "thinking out loud here, but taxi cabs go back a long way, in fact, back to the first automobiles. I seem to remember that jump seats were common in taxi cabs, and there is a "Checker Car Club". Perhaps there are members of that club that would be of some help ref jump seats from the early taxi cabs,....???
Bob, I think there was a Knox at Chickasha that had jump seats. (Maybe not a Knox, but a beautiful car in the south building that sold). It had jump seats, but they were pretty heavy and pretty specific to that car.
Harold, good idea, I'll check in the taxi direction. It could be that someone makes something now that I could "retrofit" to look period correct. There is a lot of room between the front and back seats, and we could have a few more "small people" ride along with jump seats.
You ought to post a question on The Old Motor forum. Leo posts over there some times. If you create a log on you can contact other members directly.
That Knox belonged to a friend of mine, he sold it twenty years ago, it sold for big bucks there,Bob