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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 04:46 pm:



YouTube has spawned a popular video trend called "Urban Exploration," wherein camera-laden adventurers trespass beyond signs that read "Do not enter" and climb aboard decommissioned ships and submarines, explore abandoned subway stations and tunnels, etc. I recently saw footage of what the Chrysler Building's spire looks like from the inside. Pretty neat. Thought this looked particularly interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ06aR2vNiE


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry VanOoteghem on Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 05:13 pm:

I'm sure it's not "abandoned". I am also sure they are trespassing and possibly breaking and entering.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 05:48 pm:

No doubt. It's rare when anything of real value is actually abandoned.

There were times when I've wondered about the morality of hunting for tombs in Egypt (or where ever) and emptying their contents into a museum. I doubt Tutankhamun would have consented to what took place in 1922. Might he have called it grave-robbing?

Mental hand-wringing aside, what's done is done. The photos are in books and magazines and the videos are on TV and the internet for all to see. Guess I'm not going to hurt the pharaoh any from my perch in front of the computer screen. Same with that derelict car museum.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Val Soupios on Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 07:32 pm:

If that building was near the nuclear plant that barfed during the earthquake a few years ago those cars probably glow in the dark!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim on Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 07:52 pm:

Bob,

Thanks for posting ... :-)

I enjoyed the video


Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By kep on Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 10:39 pm:

Blue car looks familiar and so does the yellow one but i cannot remember what they were. Anyone know?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Thursday, September 12, 2013 - 11:16 pm:

On the other hand Tutankhamen still lives in our mind because he was found, so I guess he got his wish of life after death.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Floyd Voie - Chehalis, Washington on Friday, September 13, 2013 - 11:35 am:

A few years ago a friend (Tom)woke up New Year's Day to find his big Shell sign missing from his sign collection on the outside of his shop building. Six weeks later at a swap meet there was his big Shell sign for sale. The vendor said he'd sell it to him at a discount! Tom said no ##@!# way, and called the cops. The cops took the sign and gave it back to Tom. The vendor said his picker told him he got it from an "abandoned" farm! If only my place would look so abandoned!
So Jerry I agree ...it is most likely not "abandoned"!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dan Hatch on Friday, September 13, 2013 - 11:58 am:

Floyd: I have wondered about recovering signs and things like that. How was your friend able to prove the sign was his? Thanks, Dan.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Floyd Voie - Chehalis, Washington on Friday, September 13, 2013 - 01:20 pm:

Dan,
The way the sign was chipped in certain areas and Tom was able to describe those areas to the cops while away from the sign. I saw the sign just after Tom did and was looking for Tom while he was calling the cops, also one other friend of ours saw the sign and knew right away it was Tom's. They were rather distinctive chips, plus the vendor had no way to prove it was his except his picker had got it from an abandoned farm(stealing).
It was interesting the way it happened ....the cop said he was taking it to the station and told them both to be there by 4p Monday to claim it and the vendor was to bring his picker. Tom was the only one who showed!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Noel D. Chicoine, MD, Pierre, SD on Friday, September 13, 2013 - 01:36 pm:

"Abandoned" my foot! that is somebody's storage facility. there is not enough dust on the cars to be truly "abandoned" for any significant amount of time. Those folks should be arrested for breaking and entering.
Noel


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Friday, September 13, 2013 - 02:39 pm:

Wow, I seem to be taking fire, here.
Folks, when I stumbled onto a YouTube video with a Model T in kind of an eerie, surreal setting, I figured y'all might like to see it. Believe me, the last thing I'd advocate is breaking and entering to get at somebody's Model T!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By A. Gustaf Bryngelson on Friday, September 13, 2013 - 05:06 pm:

Hey Bob,
It is an interesting video, I suspect in the abandoned region of Japan. I have a friend in England who does this sort of thing, they have strict rules that they follow, and while they are trespassing, they never break and enter. One thing they do is report vandalism and never disturb the contents of the buildings they explore.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Friday, September 13, 2013 - 08:51 pm:

Bob C,
I know what you are saying and meaning. And it does need to be said, that too many people these days truly have a feeling of entitlement to other peoples property. We had a bunch of antiques and family heirlooms stolen just over a week ago, from of all places a Public Storage facility inside the "secure" building. Claimed by Public Storage managers to be among the safest of locations in the San Francisco Bay area. My sister is going through fits dealing with them. Certain circumstances indicate that it was an inside job, most likely involving Public Storage employees. The thing making us the maddest, is their attitude about the situation. My sister had bought their insurance. Not only do they not want to pursue the theft, they want us to show "receipts" for things that had been in the family for a hundred years! San Jose PD is another huge joke!
I have always hated thieves, a lot! I am particularly angry right now.
To all, don't come down on Bob C. (I know you weren't really) That video needed to be seen by us just to keep us informed as to how bad some things are around us. And there are getting worse.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By wayne tomlins on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 02:16 am:

That was an interesting video, but hardly an abandoned museum.
Most of those cars looked like they originally came from Sth America, with modifications to keep them mobile.
In the 1970's & early 80's the Japanese were buying up old cars as they grabbed some from here in NZ, paying big prices. I would think most old cars in Japan had vanished due to the War.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 09:45 am:

I wonder how many T's are in Japan?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 10:11 am:

Larry,

I don't think there are any "T's" in Japan....

J-A-P-A-N....yep I don't see any "T's" in Japan.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Grady L Puryear on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 11:10 am:

There are real life stories like this in that part of the world, there are brand new, expensive (Jags, Rolls, etc.) abandoned all over Saudi, just to name one place. You don't have to take my word for it, ask almost anyone who has worked over there, the ex-pats. They do almost the same thing in London, or at Heathrow, just park it and forget it, unreal. Remember the strict laws on stealing over there, you will suffer the death penalty or have your hands cut off if you mess with one of these "abandoned" cars. It is just a reflection on the unbelievable wealth of some of those people, and we are paying for all this, one gallon at a time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 01:08 pm:

Some old cars do wind up in the strangest of places. And some of those strange places are visited by trespassers whose intent isn’t just a matter of shooting a few feet of video for YouTube. I just don't see the practicality of stealing a collector vehicle, which by its very nature, attracts a lot of attention—something a thief does not want—and this, you’d think, would make something like, say, the George Barris Lincoln-Futura/Batmobile, a little difficult to fence.

As it happens, the original James Bond Aston Martin DB5—one of two tricked out with machine-guns, battering rams, tire-slasher and ejection-seat, for the movies, Goldfinger and Thunderball—and the George Barris Batmobile were recently auctioned off for more than 4-million dollars each. Now, those cars are about as conspicuous as anything can possibly be. No way to actually steal one and sell it—Right? It’d be like trying to fence the George Washington Bridge. Yet, stuff like this does take place.

And that’s exactly what happened to the other James Bond DB5. Because it earned its keep by making international appearances, its home base was at what was supposed to be a secure garage at New York’s Kennedy International Airport. One night, it vanished. Some thief broke in and stole it. Now, what good is that? You can’t sell the thing—nobody would be stupid enough to buy such conspicuous, easily traceable, stolen property. You can’t drive it anywhere, because you’d get caught and jailed. All you can do is stick it in a garage in some remote location and every once in a while, go there, open the door, switch on the light and look at it as it slowly decays. What fun!

In a silly sort of way, I take this one personally. For as a little shaver, I got to sit in James Bond’s car at the 1964 New York World’s Fair.



My family was not exactly affluent, so we didn’t go to movies, but every kid in my neighborhood knew about James Bond and his tricked-out car, and having a gorgeous movie-studio rep give me a personalized tour of it and invite me to sit in the driver’s seat was very heady stuff. I got to push the buttons and operate the battering rams and armor shield and make the guns pop out of the turn-signals, just like in the televised movie trailers. It really ticked me off when I heard that this car had been heisted.

Oh, well. Maybe someday, some camera-toting ne'er-do-well will climb a chain-link fence, slip into a weatherbeaten garage, shoot some footage of a dust-covered sportscar with 30-caliber turn-signals and post it on YouTube. And boy oh boy, won't THAT be one hell of a barn-find!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T93T9Udh_5s


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ed in California on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 01:26 pm:

Thieves steal high profile vehicles and artwork, stuff that can never be sold on the open market, for a reason. There are very rich people in the world who would simply put the Mona Lisa on their wall, in their private gallery, regardless that its stolen, for their own sick and depraved enjoyment. High profile cars are stolen all the time, and simply put in shipping containers to be sent to the Middle East for some fat sheiks enjoyment. Everybody is on the take. You would be shocked at what is spirited out of the country. For every container they catch, 20 more are leaving on ships full of stolen items.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 04:20 pm:

Once it's in a foreign nation with no extradition treaty, it don't much matter if it's stolen. I hear Vladimir Puten has a Super Bowl Ring on display in the Kremlin.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Eubanks, Powell, TN on Sunday, September 15, 2013 - 08:38 am:

There is one of those here in East TN, located on US25W near the intersection of US 441 in Lake City TN. Lamb's museum. Been closed for years with a bunch of cars including Ts and little birds in it. Now belongs to several heirs who cannot agree on how to sell.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Sunday, September 15, 2013 - 09:49 am:

Hal ....Puten is busy doing doughnuts on Mr. Obama's front lawn these days. The ring is probably available.

Michael.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Coiro on Sunday, September 15, 2013 - 09:53 am:

Yes, I remember a James Bond Aston-Martin in a car museum near Knoxville/Gatlinburg, TN. Saw it there a couple of years after the 1982 World's Fair. It was in kind of rough shape, back then. According to what I've read, it was sold a while ago and I assume that's the one that was auctioned off for over 4-million.

Originally, the car planned for the "Goldfinger" movie was a DB4, but the Aston-Martin company, which had just started promoting their brand new DB5, sent, instead, the DB5 prototype to the studio for the secret-agent modifications. It was quickly joined by a production car which came off the line and was similarly modified in time to participate in the shooting.

Both of the "armed and armored" cars were exhibited at the 1964 New York World's Fair. A few years later, after another movie, "Thunderball," was shot, either the prototype or car #2 went back to Aston-Marton (and I'd guess it was car #2), was stripped of the guns, armor, battering-rams, etc., and sold to an ordinary Aston-Martin customer. This car was, years later, re-equipped with all the gadgets.

I think it's reasonable to assume that other, non-modified DB5's were kept on hand for non-closeup shots in the later movie, "Thunderball." Maybe these made it into the movie, maybe they didn't.

My understanding is that only two cars were customized for the two movies and of course, one was, at some point, stolen from its garage at Kennedy Airport.

The recent James Bond movie, "Skyfall," featured the return of the DB5. This one was a green production car which was re-painted silver for the movie. I don't know whether it was modified. One or two fiberglass replicas were also used. I think one of these had the machine-guns and the other was used for the destruction scene. Neither of the replicas was an actual, drivable car.

The above info is just from stuff I read on the internet, so take it all with a grain of salt.


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