This pic is on the wall in Krickett's Restaurant in Spanaway, Washington.
Looks like a K to me.
Is it a K or a Lozier? I'd take either one.
I'm pretty sure it's a Winton.
I'll second the 'vote' for Winton.
Now that I've searched some I'd vote for Lozier.
I agree that it is a Winton- 1909 model 17 possibly.
You guys are good. These period drawings look so much alike it's hard to say, except the Winton has a small cowl and the Lozier appears not to.
Rob, How many Model K's are still surviving? Running and not running.
Gary, I believe in Carl Pate"s book, "Pate's Early Ford Automobile Encyclopedia" (www.earlyfordcars.info/) the author lists 21 cars (memory?) and 3 or 4 engines remaining.
Of those, I am only aware of three Model Ks that still tour, the two in the US and one in Australia. All three owners who drive their Ks are regular posters on MTFCA, so maybe the other two have more info?
The fenders in the picture are identical to those of the Winton, not the Lozier.
OK...I'll go along with a Winton.
I'll have to admit to a bunch of guys in this restaurant that I don't know it all after all!
I will concede to Winton also. That radiator is the same. I knew it looked familiar but Lozier is what came to mind.
I do find it interesting that there are three Ford model Ks in the world currently being toured, and that all three owners are regulars on this model T site. It is also interesting that all three seem to consider them to be good tour cars for their vintage (even the earliest known and pre-improved one).
Thanks for sharing this photo! It is a good one.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2
Rob: In 1955 there was a Model K roadster with wire wheels at the Long Beach Auto scrap and vintage parts yard. He had many parts for early autos and perhaps10 or 20 complete cars including the Model K. The K was on display in the show room.Do you know where that K is today?
Are the two at the Sacramento (Towe) museum in the count?
The two K's in what used to be the Towe museum are in the total count, but not among the three currently being driven somewhat frequently on tours.
I haven't seen or heard of a roadster with wire wheels. However, at some point someone may have "restored" this roadster and replaced the wires with wood. Also, as with most old cars, there may be some Model Ks out there that have been "lost" to the general public, but may reappear at some point.
Not surprising to me, since I've slowly gravitated from Model T, to brass T, to N and now Model K. They all seem to complement ach other.
Tim, we need Bob to weigh in now for the "trifecta".
Rob, I have an old brochure with a beautiful K touring on the front cover. The brochure was advertising the Imperial Palace collection in Las Vegas. Are you familiar with this car and where it is now?
Is it dark blue with a wood framed windshield?
Rob, looks to be very dark blue or black with no windshield frame and cordovan leather upholstery. I would be glad to mail it to you if you could pm me your mailing address.
Minor correction -- Carl's book on page 44 of 63 Chapter 4 Sales and Models chart has 23 Model K cars listed and 5 spare engines listed as of 2006.
Great book available from the club at: http://modeltstore.myshopify.com/products/pates-early-ford-automotive-encycloped ia-1903-1909. It has a wealth of great information and the DVD has even more information that would not fit into the pages of the book. Highly recommend for anyone interested in the 1903-1909 Fords. (Yes, it includes the early Ts and shows the designs that were dropped along the way and those designs/patents that were carried over into the T).
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If you guy's can put a man on the moon surely you can build a bridge across the pond to AUSTRALIA. Then you can drive down and visit me.
You have met Dough Partington [on left] and John Page [on right]
Are you preparing for any tours, now that "summer" is approaching?
Rob in my part of OZ [as with most of OZ] it's tour time all year.
Getting to where we must drive with the lights on in the states
(Old Car Festival, thanks Carl)
Rob--HELL !!--WITH NO HIGH BEAM.
Be like going back to the dark age.