Rear Differential oil leak

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Rear Differential oil leak
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 07:04 am:

My rear end/gear box has a small leak so I want to check it and top it up. Can I use any type of gear oil or does the 26 touring take a specific type?
Any help appreciated.
Thanks


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 11:14 am:

Nothing specific to the '26. any good gear oil will do. Try 90w or 90-140.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 12:27 pm:

Thanks;
After looking closer at the rear end the oil seems to be coming from the front of the car and dripping off the rear end.The bottom of the car on the drivers side has a lot of oil on it. The engine oil level isn't down any. I can't think where the oil might be coming from.
Any idea's??
Thanks again


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 01:41 pm:

Clean everything underneath real well, spread a clean towel or paper towels under the car, and let it sit until it drips on the towels. This will get you close to the source. Oil may still be leaking from one place and running along something before it drips, but you should be able to trace its path.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 01:49 pm:

Thanks:
That should lead me to the source. I should've thought of that.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 01:55 pm:

If its a lot of oil, check carefully around the front seal between the hogshead and the engine.

If that seal is bad you can lose an amazing amount of oil quickly. Check the oil level often til you get it fixed!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 02:00 pm:

A guy here last year told me there is no stupid question when it comes to a Model T but I have one. Would the engine oil be the same oil to supply the transmission?
Maybe before I ask a question like that I should read the repair bible I have.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 02:30 pm:

The two speed transmission uses the same oil as the engine. The u-joint should be full of grease, but sometimes the babbitt bearing for the transmission output shaft is worn and leaks engine oil.. Sometimes it makes a path through the u-joint grease and follows the drive shaft tube down to the rear axle. The rear axle originally had 600w fluid grease, but 140w should work if you have seals inside the outer bearings.

Many T's have accessory transmissions behind the engine/trans - maybe that's what's in your T? Popular accessory transmissions were Warford, Jumbo Giant, Chicago etc. They should have their own oil, originally they may have used something similar to the 600w in the rear axle.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 03:03 pm:

Oil all over the drivers side bottom would have me looking at the starter mounting screws and the bendix cover screws as well. Next stop would be pedal bushings and/or mag post


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 03:54 pm:

Thanks I clean it all and go from there. Here is a picture of the transmission:transmission


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By George_Cherry Hill NJ on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 04:02 pm:

Enos,

I'm smiling...that drive train looks pretty typical to me :-)

The gunky frame? It sure looks like there is a gasket under the Bendix cover. Pressure wash the under-side at a drive in do-it-yourself car wash...no direct on angle with the nozzle...and bring it home. (The gunk stays at their place and not your driveway) Then start anew to figure out the 'where'


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 04:32 pm:

I agree with Bill. Check your starter mounting screws first. If that's not it, then you can check the other places people have mentioned. VOE.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 04:35 pm:

Thanks
Pressure washing will start after the car show tomorrow.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willie K Cordes on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 05:36 pm:

Enos, it would not be a T if it did not drip. That is how a T marks it's territory.
Your garage floor in your profile picture does not look right without a few spots of oil somewhere under the T.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Henry Petrino in Modesto, CA on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 08:41 pm:

Willie,

There are, in fact, T's that do not drip. They are the ones with no oil at all! :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Saturday, September 14, 2013 - 10:39 pm:

The starter can is notorious for loose screws and oil leaks, and sometimes the starter mounting screws loosen. You can doesn't look like its leaking but check the screws for tightness. You could be leaking a little oil past your 4th main and it could follow the driveline.

Following up on Willie's comment, if you T does not leak oil, you probably need to add some to your engine.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ex trooper on Sunday, September 15, 2013 - 02:13 pm:

I LUV messing with the purists! Go to NAPA and get some fluorescent dye (Theres dye for oil and dye for coolant) Add the one ounce bottle and start it up. Youll need a black light in a "darkened" shop to INSTANTANEOUSLY see each and every spot that's leaking. It works like RIGHT NOW, as in within 5 seconds of starting the motor, and wont contaminate the UN DYED stains. Take some NON FLASH pictures of the results!

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