2 THINGS CAN ANYONE TELL THE EASIEST WAY TO REGISTER A SPEEDSTER IN CALIFORNIA AND DOSE ANYONE HAVE A TRICKS ON HOW TO GET A WORN OUT ENGINE NUMBER TO WHERE IT CAN BE READ THANKS MARK
Go to AAA. Use the Frame number and have a buddy write you a bill of sale. Give a fair value of the car so you dont raise a red flag. Scott
If it's not a 26 or a 27, there is no frame number. You might get the engine number readable by rubbing it with chalk then wiping the flat surface to leave chalk in the numbers.
Different lighting can help. With your car in a dark garage, aim a small light from various angles. Sometimes direct, late afternoon sunlight works best.
One more thing, take close up macro photos and blow them up big on your monitor.
Coin people use a product called Nicodate to raise the date on coins. You might try it.
If its going to be a speedster call it a 26-7 and put a number on the frame. Make sure you have a 26-7 block in your garage if they ask you to prove it. Scott
I've had very good luck using a title service that is very familiar with our cars. I was able to register a '16 Touring that has been in my family for 50 years, with no existing paperwork whatsoever. Crystal is currently working on transferring a '14 in from Iowa for me, I am adding YOM plates at the same time.
Contact me off list and I can hook you up with her info.
Keep it cranking.
Califunny does not use and will not accept the number on the engine for official title purposes. They do check it to see if it is on a hot list. A question they may ponder is why the number is not readable. I had one where the whole side of the block was deeply pitted from a radiator leak. They griped about that for awhile but eventually accepted the idea that I would not have beat up the whole side of the block just to obscure the serial number.
Is it probable your block was a replacement and not stamped heavily? Is it beat up or damaged by something rubbing against it?
CA DMV will demand to use a frame number. If there is none, they will complain bitterly. The CA Highway Patrol can and will (maybe a small fee) assign a new number.
A little history. Califunny has wanted a "frame" number for a long time. Many years ago, about forty, my dad had business in a small town in Northern CA. We got to know a retired sheriff deputy fairly well. He knew of my interest in antique automobiles and told me about his career. He had become a sheriff deputy about 1922. He told me that his main task at that time was to go out to farms around the county to stamp the engine/registration number onto the frame. Any time an engine was replaced, they required the owner to either do a number change to the replacement engine number, or put the old number onto the frame and change the registration to reflect that. Either way, they charged a small fee, and wanted an official inspection. Califunny preferred the old number be stamped on the frame. Over the years, I have seen several pre-'26 model T frames with numbers stamped on them. A few, I have owned. It was in the mid '60s that they stopped accepting engine change numbers and required the number put onto the frame.
A couple silly asides. There was no "official" location to put the number. I have seen them in four different general areas. Also, with engines being routinely changed out, then being rebuilt and going into a different car, it is actually possible for two different cars to end up with the same serial number. Not accepting the "real" serial number (the one on the engine) is one of the main reasons that I have called it "Califunny" for many years. They may be right about engine changes causing problems, but their "solution" did not solve that problem, and it added more new problems.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2