Early 1912 Horn placement on Dash

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Haynes on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 07:26 pm:

I am in the final stages of finishing my early 1912 Touring and ready to install the horn. Does any one have the measurements of the correct placement of the two holes needed to be drilled?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 07:36 pm:

The U shaped horn bracket straddles the body to firewall bolt. The horn tube is as close to the body as you can get without it hitting.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Haynes on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 10:03 pm:

Thank you Royce, that is just what I needed!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Greg sarky K on Thursday, September 19, 2013 - 11:50 pm:

John,

Can you post any photos of your 12 Touring? Would love to see them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 12:16 am:

I assume that photo is a Canadian car?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 01:22 am:

John-
Step-side body or slab-side?
-Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 06:41 am:

Larry,

The photo above is a US made car with accessory front doors added. The front doors shown are not the typical ones Ford added around January 1912 to the early style touring bodies.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John F. Regan on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 03:17 pm:

Be careful here since if you mount the horn too far inboard you can in fact "trap" the hood from coming off since the lower edge of the hood sticks out and will not pass the horn rim if the horn rim is too close to the hood. Start with the hood off and make yourself a "story pole" out of a stick that is the same length and width as the hood bottom edge. Lay that stick against the radiator at one end and hood former on the other and hold it at the height of the outer perimeter location of your horn at the proposed placement location of the horn. Once you drill those pilot holes for the horn bracket you will not be able to move them without the old holes showing your mistake. I have an original later 12 one piece dash picture and it shows the tell tale horn bracket was mounted higher than the typical "body bracket" straddling position but I also think it was a smaller horn and perhaps an early 1913 single twist version - don't know for sure what horn it was. The original horn mounting hardware was #9 round head brass screws so you will find that typically #10 won't fit the holes and #8 is loose. If loose the horn will eventually rattle itself out of position it was originally mounted in.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Haynes on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 02:46 pm:

Gentlemen, Thank you for the info. Keith, it is a step-side. I will try to post some photos in a day or two.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Haynes on Monday, September 23, 2013 - 09:48 pm:

Here is a photo I took tonight. Upholstery is not done yet. 1912 Touring


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 12:48 am:

Looking good, John! I recall now you told me it is a Ray Wells body. Your upholstery looks good, too.


When the horn bracket is mounted around the body mound carriage bolts, the bottom of the horn will barely clear the fender!



: ^ )

-Keith


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