How to take the tire off the wheel?

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: How to take the tire off the wheel?
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By iceman on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 12:47 pm:

I'm new to the model t world, trying to fix a flat and then remove the wheel from the car. I'm restoring a 23 touring. .


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thomas Mullin on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 01:01 pm:

Some remove the tire with their bare hands. I prefer to use tire irons - I get mine at a motorcycle shop.

For Clincher rims you will probably also need to break the seal of the bead on the rim. I change tires with the wheel on the car. I use a large C-clamp to do this. Then, the tire irons to lift one bead over the rim. Once one bead is free, then I free the other bead to the same side.

For Demountable Clincher Rims The process is similar. I would leave the rim on the car to hold it better.

For Split-Ring Demountable tires , we need advice from someone who has done those.

Removing the wheel from the car is different for the fronts and the rears. Fronts are straight forward, just remember one side has left hand threads. Rears can be a hassle and the hub cap thread mounted hub puller is highly recommended.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob McDonald-Federal Way, Wa. on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 01:07 pm:

Iceman
Are your wheels Clinchers, Demountable or wire ones.

Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By iceman on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 02:58 pm:

sorry, had to run by the store to get some jack stands, i have a picture but it wont load up. wood stem wheel 22in has 4 screws that hold the tire/rim to the wheel(4bolts and screw). I know how to take modern tires of cars manually. But the tire seem to go way under the rim, just didnt want to destroy the tire. thx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 03:23 pm:

Resize the picture so that it is smaller than 195K, then it should upload.

Here is a thread with a picture sequence of clincher tire installation while the wheel is on the car:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/256320.html?1325091009


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By iceman on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 03:43 pm:

Thanks, now I will go out and try it. Thx for the link y'all been great help. The Texas Iceman


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 04:37 pm:

As the saying goes, welcome to the affliction. Here are a couple of links for folks new to the Model T world.

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG80.html

http://dauntlessgeezer.com/DG79.html

From your description ("the tire seem to go way under the rim") it sounds like you have demountable clinchers, like this.





A handy hint for mounting and demounting tires: warm tires are much easier to work with than cold tires. I lay mine out in the sun before mounting.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By iceman on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 07:21 pm:

Thanks, Thomas Mullin for the c clamp suggestion it really helped. The tire was about 27 yrs old and wanted to saved it so i can still drive it and until i get my new ones. Great pics and links, Steve Jelf, I still don't understand how to get the tire/rim off the wheel. I took off the 4 bolts and nuts, but don't know what to do next to demount them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Val Soupios on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 07:34 pm:

Once you have the nuts off the wheel should pull right off if you grab it so the tire stem is at 12 and your hands are at 4 and 8 on the face of a clock but first you need to unscrew the valve stem cover and then unscrew the nut that it was resting on. Some people do it reverse with the valve stem at the bottom and their hands at 10 and 2 but it really doesn't matter. Once the rim stars to come off you should push it up ( or down if the stem is at the bottom) as you continue to pull it towards you until the valve stem comes out of the hole. You may need to bang the rim a bit with a rubber mallet from behind if it has been in place for a long time.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 07:51 pm:

I don't know of any 22" wheels. If you have demountables like Steve posted above, they are either 30x3 1/2 (23in wheel)clinchers (no split rim) or 30x3 1/2 straight sided tires with split rims (unlikely)or 21's which were demountable split rim, straight sided. On all demountables take off the lug nuts and bump from the back with a rubber hammer. You need the rim off the wheel to remove the tire from a split rim, while it's easier to remove the tire with the wheel on the car if it's a clincher.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By iceman on Friday, September 20, 2013 - 08:44 pm:

Thanks, Val and Mike will try it again tomorrow with a rubber mallet.


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