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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Horns
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Saturday, September 21, 2013 - 04:42 pm:

newbie..restoring a 16 touring.

What sort of horn should I be looking for?

Thanks,

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kerry van Ekeren (Australia) on Saturday, September 21, 2013 - 06:18 pm:

magneto horn.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Saturday, September 21, 2013 - 07:56 pm:

so, are those horns that circle around and have a squeeze bulb an accessory? When did they stop using them?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Saturday, September 21, 2013 - 08:04 pm:

No, it's an electric horn, here is an earlier thread on the subject:

http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/179374/245702.html?1321409285


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Val Soupios on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 09:50 am:

Those horns that have a bulb and circle around that you see from time to time are mostly junk from India. They are a cute accessory that people like to drill holes in their cars to mount. All Ford bulb horns were connected by a flexible tube and were mounted on the flat dash.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 11:02 am:

There are several vendors that sell horns for cars...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 11:50 am:

On and off in 1915, then as stock item the 1916 cars would have come with the magneto horn. You will see a lot of cars with the hand klaxon like the one on your car in your profile picture. It would be fine unless your are going for a point car. For many years people thought that was how Ford supplied the car (having the hand powered Klaxon).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 01:04 pm:

I see...so, I'll look into getting a magneto horn. That would be correct for a 16, correct?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erich Bruckner, Vancouver, WA on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 02:11 pm:


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 02:49 pm:

ok...thanks. I see some from the vendors for later years...actually 12 volts. Do they make them for 6 volts?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By mike_black on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 02:53 pm:

Magneto is AC voltage. Look at Eric's pic. The battery horns look like that with a larger diameter "hat" on the left side.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 06:13 pm:

Magneto horns are neat. The pitch and to a lesser extent, the volume, varies with engine rpm. Very unique.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bud Holzschuh - Panama City, FL on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 09:46 pm:

Michael

There's always a choice. The magneto horn may be what came with the car when it was new and if your trying to put the car in its original condition, that's what you need.

But realize that most T owners (back in the day) made changes to their cars - there was a whole industry built around accessories. Everyone wanted to be a little different (if they could afford it).

So if a magneto horn, makes you happy, or a bulb horn, or a klaxon, or a battery horn, or a ships bell, go for it. I'll guarantee you someone was using it back then.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John F. Regan on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 10:11 pm:

Michael:

To be technically correct the magneto horn used on your 1916 would have had a shorter bell (snout on the right side as pictured). More important than having a shorter bell is that it must have 2 electrical connections on it and not one. The reason for that is that a 1915-1916 had a horn button on the steering column that went to ground. So the magneto horn was wired from the magneto to one side of the horn and then from the other side of the horn it went to that pushbutton which completed the circuit by grounding it. The earliest magneto horns mostly had a brass bell but that went away by late 1916 and you then had the longer bell used but all horns used from the first ones through sometime after 1916 when the combo horn button/switch began to be useed had the 2 connections at the horn for power and neither of those connections was hard wired to ground at the horn like the later electric horns. The magneto horn was mounted to the dash rather than the motor until March of 1922.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Steve Jelf, Parkerfield KS on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 10:26 pm:

As Bud says, many people made changes to their cars. While the T came equipped with a magneto horn from the factory, a lot of the cars from the teens have had mechanical horns installed. Some people call them all Klaxons, just as they call all tissues Kleenex or all cameras Kodaks, but there were several brands of horns. My roadster has this Stewart.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHZCpzrsdEA


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dave Wells on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 10:27 pm:

My 1919 car had a battery horn when I got it. I switched it to a magneto horn to be as correct as possible but found the horn to be weak and odd sounding with the rise fall sound so I went back to the battery horn. Worse still, the magneto horn won't work with the engine off and that is when you often need a horn the most as some idiot is backing up towards your parked car. The battery horn works really well and looks and sounds very correct.If you must be totally correct, read John Regan's post above again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Sunday, September 22, 2013 - 11:54 pm:

Dave,
That's why folks added the hand horns to their pre-16 cars.
David D.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wilber Elliott on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 06:15 am:

Michael, I restored my early 1916 Touring from a barn find in Ohio, where it had sat for forty years. I am the fourth registered owner and the car was pretty much untouched except for some paint and later top. The motor was cast 11/22/15 and it had an original Brassco magneto horn, which was painted black. I removed the black paint when I discovered it was brass and it looks and sounds great! Good luck with your project!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 07:47 am:

Wow. Lots of information. Thanks guys.

It would be great to find a brass mag horn. Do they ever show up?

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By ROBERT BERGSTADT on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 09:34 am:

I have quite a few all black mag horns in stock,Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Dewey, N. California on Tuesday, September 24, 2013 - 11:56 am:

Wilber,
My '16 was assembled 12-10-15 and it has a Brassco Horn too. Though mine looks like the horn projector part was never painted. Hmmmm. . . .
My car does not have any provenance with it (in fact, it was in pieces when I got it), so hard to say what it was like originally.
T'
David D.


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