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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Friday, September 27, 2013 - 05:57 pm:

Would any members have any information on these signals?? Apparently they have rear and forward signals with emergency flashers as well. I don't know of anyone with them.
http://smartsignals.com/cms/


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Bowker on Friday, September 27, 2013 - 11:54 pm:

Seems expensive at $359 plus $10 shipping.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 07:20 am:

Do the control units each have their own frequency? If you have 4 cars at an event and they each have a set of signals and one guy turns his on will they all come on? I know they have a limited range but if the cars are close together..

I like the idea of not having to hard wire lights on my Model T's plus I can use one set for both cars.

It is like any new product on the market time and money have been invested and I don't fault anyone for what they need to charge to make a business go. I wish them luck and now I need to go talk to Santa!


p.s. I have no connections with this company


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tim Wrenn on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 07:38 am:

I think I like the one I got from the Egypt Garage better, altho it would be nice to have forward turn signals. I suspect someday they'll come out with those. They cost less, aren't near as bulky, and I have to question whether the magnetic mount lights will stay on the car bouncing down the road, and what about scratching the paint? And Egypts are half the cost.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 10:54 am:

yes they are a bit pricey compared to the E lights from theegyptgarage.com. I don't know about their frequency. I'll have to email that question. It would be nice to have forward signals though. in regards to scratching the paint and bouncing off a T body,that's another question I'll shoot at them. I think mounting them like the e lights would be a better idea. Maybe eventually someone will have the perfect solution.
I think I'll go with the E lights for now.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Peterson on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 11:33 am:

Hello Friends, John from SmartSignals writing in. I wanted to answer the questions posted here. Regarding multiple frequencies, SmartSignals use a 2.4 Ghz radio that uses unique addressing with more than 2 million addresses / frequency combinations. we have run 100 sets in a 20 foot space at the same time for testing. Regarding the magnets, they are powerful rare earth magnets with 80 pounds of force required to move them. They have a 1/16 silicone foam pad covering it so that only silicone touches the vehicle.

if you explore the smartsignals.com website you will see that lots of thought went into these...from the rechargable batteries, weatherproofing, OSRAM automotive grade LEDs, and they have turn, hazards, and marker lights, and we will be launching a wireless brake actuator this Fall.


I am available personally if anyone has questions.

Happy Motoring

John Peterson '46 Ford Super Deluxe
Founder, Classic Safety Products
888.267.5680 personal cell
smartsignals.com
smartsignals@smartsignals.com


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willie K Cordes on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:13 pm:

The Smartsignals do look nice, but as long as I can find some of the steering column mounted turn signals from the 50's or earlier at swap meets, that is the way I will go.
Tail lights and front mounted lights are easy to find and modify for turn signal use.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:19 pm:

I can see the value of these magnetic, wireless signals for someone who wants to be able to remove them for originality's sake when the car is being displayed.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ivan Warrington on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:22 pm:

Very smart setup. Have any been shipped and installed?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Peterson on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:23 pm:

And if we are lucky enough to have more than one antique, you use the same set :-)

I would like another- restoring a '46 and want something earlier.


John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:23 pm:

John,
You said that you "have run 100 sets in a 20 foot space at the same time for testing" but you did not say what the result of that testing was.

Is the frequency user adjustable? Or, are units set at the factory so there is no interference?

Will they work or have they been tested in a car with a Model T ignition system?

Thanks,
Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Peterson on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:33 pm:

The result was no interference. These use an unique digital serial number, and each transmission only actuates part of its set. The 2.4 Ghz radio also has frequency hopping and packet checking. It confirms each transmission to the operator. Yes we learned lots about Tesla and his studies...with the magnetos. I even got a nice shock :-)

We have had no interference from magnetos or coils, or from other running sets.


We offer a 30 day return policy because we know people appreciate the quality and design of this USA designed and built system.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Peterson on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:37 pm:

I am at my own birthday party now, so have to go.

But, first person to write the next post will get a free set and can a review for this site!

Enjoy the day! John


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Sanders-Auburn Al on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:47 pm:

I'll try them...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Peterson on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:51 pm:

Happy Birthday, Bob! Call me for details. 888 267 5680

And then I really must return to my own birthday party...

Thanks to all for the great questions.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 12:53 pm:

Way to go Bob. Looking forward to your review thread.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Sanders-Auburn Al on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 01:08 pm:

Thank you John...looking forward to trying them and reporting back! Thanks Gary...this should be a treat...my birthday was on the 9th, makes it even sweeter.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ivan Warrington on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 01:20 pm:

Get um on pronto!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 01:53 pm:

All these smart signals look kinda' dumb to me, if they aren't self-canceling.

My 1935 patent signals are self-canceling, via a mechanical clock timer. I haven't used them yet, because I haven't found a place to mount them on the ol' brass picup.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Sanders-Auburn Al on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 01:59 pm:

I just talked to John, really nice guy. He said they have developed a device that attaches to the brake peddle for wireless brake lights. This device is the size of a small coin...incredible! There is a video on their FB page that shows the intensity at night. Thank you John for your generosity...I'll be up for the task!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Frank Harris from Long Beach & Big Bear on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 02:05 pm:

Here is my solution. If you get cheap clearance lamps at a swap meet you can do the whole job for under $25 and some of the parts are in your discard pile already. I made this drawing over 45 years ago before RADIO SHACK started selling Piezo tweeters. I hook one to each side and they tweet which reminds me to shut them off. Simply connect the left side and right side through the tweeters to the ground. I didn't know how to do it with only one tweeter.




circuit direction signals


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 02:15 pm:

HEY JOHN,

My birthday is in a couple of weeks!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Sanders-Auburn Al on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 02:29 pm:

You will all laugh at what I use for hazards now...I guess it's better than nothing.



Bob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Saturday, September 28, 2013 - 06:35 pm:

At that price i'm glad they won't work with oil !! Much simply passes by but the price seems very high??Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Enos Wiseman on Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 07:24 am:

I think I'll have to call Mr Peterson for a set as well. Bob I hope you like them and am glad I was able to help you get a set by starting this thread.
I should've been so lucky but I was away for the afternoon and evening.
I am leaving this morning for the day on a road trip with a few other T's It's a gorgeous Nova Scotia Autumn day and I hope you all enjoy your day wherever you are.
Cheers


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Willie K Cordes on Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 10:51 am:

Do you need to be a part owner of a battery store to keep those SmartSignals operating.
I count at least 5 batteries and some of the devices may use more than one battery.
I often use a flashing amber LED light on the rear of a model T. (magnet mounting) They work great and highly visible but battery life is a little short. Tractor supply and some hardware stores sell them.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Peterson on Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 11:12 am:

Hi Willie. The batteries are rechargable and...as the addage doesn't go... included :-)

Each lamp has a charge port on it. An adapter, included, plugs into all 4 and charges them. Thr adapter is included too :-)

Now, everyone get out and drive...we don't get many days like this weather today..at least not here in New England.

Have fun.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Peterson on Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 11:21 am:

Take a look at the FAQ part of the smartsignals.com website for info on batteries and other good info.

And for even more fun, look at the brightness demo videos on facebook.com/smartsignals

If anyone is in Rhode Island and going out in their T today I would love a ride...my '46 is still in my garage being restored.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ray Syverson on Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 11:48 am:

I think I read somewhere that rechargeable batteries have a life of about 5 years. If the SmartSignals use 5 (?) batteries then a question would be how long do they last? And how expensive to replace? These signals do sound like a great thing.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Peterson on Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 12:22 pm:

Hello Ray, the lamps use li ion battteries which spec out to about 5 years.

We replace them with no markup when necessary for $7 each, and there are 4, when necessary.

The controller in the car uses a regular CR123 battery, available almost everywhere, and that will last you a year or 2, as the controller uses very little energy.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Peterson on Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 12:24 pm:

I will be offline until tonight, but I look forward to talking more...John


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