OT - JD against a Steam Engine

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: OT - JD against a Steam Engine
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lance Sorenson, Hector, Minnesota on Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 11:03 pm:

When I started to watch this I wasn't sure who would win. Pretty cool!

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=4457025380558


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Sunday, September 29, 2013 - 11:51 pm:

Woo-hoo, toot-toot and away we go!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ted Dumas on Monday, September 30, 2013 - 12:00 am:

Why didn't the JD unit use his front wheel drive?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Gregush Portland Oregon on Monday, September 30, 2013 - 12:09 am:

Because it was a two wheel drive vs two wheel drive contest. ;<{)=


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Stroud on Monday, September 30, 2013 - 12:23 am:

With that drawbar angle, the John Deere didn't stand a chance, even if it weighed about the same as the steam tractor. Dave


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Bowker on Monday, September 30, 2013 - 12:23 am:

Four wheel drive would make difference to the results!!!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Odell Overgaard on Monday, September 30, 2013 - 09:59 pm:

4 wheel drive makes little difference in a tractor pull. As weight lifts the front end and little traction is gained. In truck pulls for example a 2 wheel drive pickup will always out pull 4 wheel drive pickups because the pull weight is always transferred to the rear. On a front wheel assist tractor you would have to add a huge amount of weight to make any difference. The steam engine has all the benefits, weight, maximum torque at any speed. a tractor pull tractor only has power when its RPM is at maximum. The JD had no chance.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mack Cole ---- Earth on Monday, September 30, 2013 - 10:03 pm:

4 wheel drive on a tractor is good if you tote weight on a front bucket or forks.There is times without it,I would not budge my tractor with a load.
And to think I didnt really want it when i went looking for tractors.It was just purty much standard on about all compact deisels and now that I have it,you couldnt pry the key out of my hand.

Steel wheels probably dont spin as easy as a rubber tire.They grip or something breaks.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Monday, September 30, 2013 - 10:35 pm:

Having owned a Case 65 and done a few sled pulls, I find the results as no surprise. My 65 weighed in at about 12 tons. We always were able to do full pulls. Never found a sled we couldn't beat.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Kenneth W DeLong on Monday, September 30, 2013 - 11:32 pm:

David is right the steamer is getting the drawbar height advantage.I think most tractor pulls drawbar heights are all the same at about 21"?? If you want to see a true test a Weight Transfer machine/sled gives a better picture of ability.When the weight and gearing are set corectly few if any ever get away! I have allways liked the Avery Underslung the best,but there is nothing sadder than a long pull when the boiler won't keep up!! Bud.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Tony Bowker on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 01:03 am:

I just re-read my post, I meant to write that four wheel drive would make NO difference to the result.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Horlick in Penn Valley, CA on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 01:47 am:

I love that little green plow attachment the steam traction engine has clipped onto the back!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Will Copeland - Trenton, New Jersey on Tuesday, October 01, 2013 - 07:26 am:

I watched something similar a few years ago at the Kinzer steam show. They were using a 4x4 tractor to pull the the traction engine back with and they couldn't do it. They ended up unhooking and driving the traction engine back. The 4x4 tractor just didn't have the weight to give the tires any bite.


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