I found this web site. it lists gasoline stations by state and city that sell pure gasoline. Look them up by city, call the station and locate the (usually single) pump and price.
I've found that website to be of no use. I think the information is largely outdated if it was ever true.
I'm not sure what it does, but I was in a tool rental place last weekend and they had some stuff they sell to put in Egas that is to be used in lawn mowers and small engines.
I found four stations here in Knoxville that are on this list that do sell no ethanol gas, one is premium only. the list does need to be updated more often.
The last couple of times we drove through Oklahoma we got regular gas, not Ethanol, at a Wal Mart station in Paul's Valley, just off I 35.
Only 4 locations in California are in rural areas far from the big cities. Nearest is about 800 miles from here.
In our state, there are many stations that are ethanol free but mainly near large bodies of water where boats gas up.
My son has a new pontoon boat and the motor's warranty is void if gas is used that contains ethanol, according to him.
Yup... most of the marinas on lake Michigan are ethanol free. If you have a boat that is pre 1995 with fiberglass tanks, the ethanol (phase separation) will turn the bottom of the tank into a bucket full off 600W rear end oil and foul valve guides, rings and anywhere else gas goes. Generally that means a complete tear down and overhaul. BTW... marina gas is $5.67 here. Of course we all need to pay more for not having the ethanol. Do the math... ws
Ahh, New Jersey isnt even on the list of states!
It worked Ok for me this morning. I called the station first to double check It was 93 octane, no ethanol at 4.19 a gallon vs 3.25 a gallon for 87 octane regular. i figure it is a cheap bet to put in my lawn equipment and cars with stabilizer over the winter. I drained fuel form lawn tractor last fall and the carb diaphragm dried out needed a rebuild due to no gas.
Over the winter with ethanol it would've looked like a used Trojan.
Another one that forgot to vote a few times ago... The hose is gonna rot too. Itll leak, start on fire and hopefully be outside when it happens. Losing the battle AND lost the war. Mix a few ounces of gas and kero 50/50 an let it run until it dies. The kero will keep it supple. LOL
Iowa sells non ethanol gas. And for number purposes, we get a consistent %18 better mileage rating without ethanol.. However, we chose a VW diesel for our car and I drive a diesel truck. I'm not much of a gas fan.
Corn yield down, ethanol/gas prices skyrocket, beef and pork prices skyrocket, HGH sales score big, deer herds suffer, hunting licenses to double while gun ownership banned, and da prez is off playin' (well trying to play) golf somewhere on our dime at 12 million per day with entourage..
Hey troop. The problem is congress,not the pres. He should come here to Wisconsin and I will not hesitate to give him a ride in my Speedster. Hey, I gave the dean at the UW-Madison campus a ride, why not the pres.
Hope they keep all the snow this week in Wyoming. Too early for snow in Wisconsin
Gotta agree with Royce, finding non-ethanol fuel is just a crap shoot at best. Here in snowmobiling land in northern WI, most of us prefer to feed our sleds straight gasoline. Unfortunately, as most of us have found out, even pumps claiming to sell non-ethanol 92-3 premium and 87 regular gas sometimes wind up dispensing the adulterated stuff. Why this happens, I don't know. But a simple fuel test kit (or just plain lousy performance and water issues) will confirm it. I use Marine Stabil formula to give me a measure of protection against bad fuel and just hope for the best.
Ok newbie question with newly rebuilt engine.
What's all this fuss about ethanol in our Ts?
Is there an additive to put in the tank and does that help?
I'm pretty new to T's, but so far my 1923 touring/pickup seems to run just fine on regular 87 octane gas with ethanol blend that is available around town. Just lucky, I guess....
If you really want non-oxy gasoline, petition your state politicians to pass a law allowing the sale of non-oxy gas for use in collector vehicles and small engines, like Minnesota allows.
There are two stations six blocks from me that sell non-oxy premium. There are other stations within a few miles that also sell it.
I wouldn't be concerned about using oxygenated gas in a Model T Ford. I would be concerned if I had to use it in later antique and collector vehicles where it can wreak havoc on fuel system components.
Personally, I like to use non-oxy for my lawnmower and snowblower - less maintenance issues.
My dad brews his own. He actually pours water into a 5 gallon container of gas and waits for the ethanol to attach to the water (or vice versa, or whatever happens). Then he drains the water/ethanol mix out from the bottom and uses the gas in his '29 Chevy. Somebody at our local AACA chapter told him about this process.
If I hadn't seen him do it I wouldn't believe it myself.
In Winnipeg Canada premium gas has no ethanol, lower grades have ethanol up to 10 percent.
Thanks Craig ---Leonard Evansic
Mark just be sure to drain the the ethanol gas from the tank and carburetor before putting your T up for the winter or letting it sit for a period of months or it will go bad. Ethanol usually goes bad after about 90 days. In yard equipment it is notoriously bad for attacking plastic seals, gaskets and tubing so it is especially important to be wary of using ethanol gas in the small engines of yard equipment. Jim Patrick
Mike and Mark
your T's will run just fine on gasoline with ethanol in it. The problem comes from when it's not running...sitting. In FL the amount of water it will absorb can be pretty considerable, and corrosion of components and gumming of moving parts in carburetors can become a problem. Some of my cars will sit for 5-8 weeks between starts and in one case, I had to rebuilt a fairly fresh carb...found fresh rust and evidence of a puddle of water sitting in carb bowl. Usually I will just drain the tank and carb a bit at the start and then drive it.
I usually keep about 4 gallons of gas in the tank and burn about 2 during the day...top up with 2 fresh gallons and good to store for a few months. Since we get so little weather that would cause condensation, I have no qualms about not filling the tank, and believe that the routine of constantly adding a bit of fresh gas has helped me.
My regular driver never gums up but occasionally I will get some cloudy fuel out of the carb when I drain it.
I think the key is to service the car like it was intended...meaning original owners expected to get dirt and water occasionally and drained the tank and carb as necessary to get rid of it.
I'd prefer to get good old gasoline like from my youth, but find that the ethanol blend in FL isn't that awful to deal with.
Hey Len, I didn't know you were here! I'm betting that was you with the ethanol idea too. Please let us know if I messed up the description, but I think that was accurate.
Good description. The pump stickers say up to 10% but Iv'e found most 87 gas is only 5.8% , which is the lowest permitted by law. 10% would raise the cost of gas and corn at the market.
The ethanol is mixed at the point of delivery which is when the pure gas is put into the tanker to be distributed.
If it were put into the storage tanks at the depot the ethanol would instantly combine with the water on the bottom of the tanks.
Years ago engine problems were often blamed on water in the gas. Correctly, it's water under the gas. This water will seek the lowest points in the fuel system,the tank outlet, sediment bulb,
and carb bowl. This gas is 100% usable. Put it in a 5 gallon container with a cup of water, and watch what happens.
They have tried to combine ethanol with diesel and it wont work. The answer they have come up with is another tank for ethanol and an additional injection system.It probably does not add any cost to the truck,
Are You going to Hershey? I'm at GDI 10.---Len
in case ya'll missed it. marinas, drag strips, and airports sell real gas.
For what it's worth, and I know I am beating a dead horse, I had to replace my gas tank and carburetor on my T, lawn tractor, chain saw, edger, and weed eater this year, not cheap. I had really loaded everything up with Stabil, but it didn't seem to help, although in pre ethanol times it did. I have been touted off to a "Marine" Stabil, will try that. When I still had an airplane, there was an AD put out by the FAA against using Ethanol fuel in airplanes, and so it goes.
100% Gas Do we have that anymore? I doubt it! I can remember when gas smelled like gas, it was orange in color inside that old glass gas jug we had, now it's looks like white wine... Here's something to ponder...
We have a large bulk storage area close by in Chattanooga, TN. Just off Bonnie Oaks Drive. The funny thing that has always amused me is the local politics in folks buying gas brands, some folks say "I wouldn't use anything in my car but Exxon"! The next one will say "I'll never use anything but Shell"! Then you hear "I'd never use any other gas but Midnight Oil in mine"!
Now with that said I've sat across from this storage area I speak of at a little restaurant and ate lunch many times and seen Transport Tankers from all over like Exxon, Midnight, Shell, BP, Texaco ect..ect... All going in and out of the same area getting filled up so my opinion is if the gas isn't fresh gas its bad gas as for brands it seems to be coming out of the same hole here in our area! So with that said I've found in my 03 Silverado 5.3L If I buy low grade 87 octane, my valves clatter when under a load ie: pulling a trailer or while passing another car. 89 octane, isn't any better... My Truck came with the High Output T code engine and it really loves 93 octane. It really comes to life with it and it performs very well might I add. So 100% 90% 80% who knows for sure what we're buying? I vote for Fresh and high octane.
My neighbor is a dispatcher "gas,diesel,bunker etc". When they need a product they get it from whomever and when ever they can.
They deliver Irving to Esso and Ultramar to Irving etc,etc.He said gas is gas but each company have their own additive,whatever that is I do not know.
Anything over 45 octane should run fine in your T. If it doesn't, then something is broke that needs to be fixed.
Don't run Aviation Fuel though.