Does anyone recognize this TT Firetruck or know more about the owner or fire company?
Bill Killen would like to include a photo and short history in his Second Edition of Firefighting With Henry's Model T, which has reached the draft review stage now.
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If someone doesn't recognize the TT, I would recommend looking at a higher resolution copy. I think there is a good chance you will be able to read the license plate (on both TT and SUV). That will give you a reasonable state which is better than 50 states. I think there is a good chance between the writing on the hood of the fire truck in the back ground and the writing on the side of the T you will have a down or some other lead. We know it is probably a 1924-1927 TT chassis. Although the fire truck may be registered with an earlier date. Googling town name Fire truck, Model T Ford and the years 1923, 1924, 1925, 1926, and 1927 just might turn up the same truck.
Of course if Bill Killen knows the approximate location of the truck that would make it easier to track down information about it. Several Fire Companies have kept some of their older equipment. In Sumter they have an early horse drawn steam pumper. They also have an early chain drive fire truck (non-Ford) that was placed back on the children's playground without the engine etc.
Hopefully someone will recognize the truck, the town, the people etc. in the photo.
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Hap, being from New York State, I think that I can recognize the license plate as one of those, but other states could have had the same colors that year.
New York State would change from black numbers on an amber back ground to amber numbers on a black background every year for many years.
I'll try a blowup look.
Hap, taking your suggestion, I can see that the plate is not from New york State. The width to length ratio is off and the corners are too square.
I can read Engine 38 on the hood, but seems like that is a restaurant chain.
It might be from New Jersey or Minnesota.
If Bill Killen or someone else snagged the photo off the internet, then the 148kb or so photo that was posted will be all we have to work with. But if Bill has and actual photo or if someone sent him a digital scan or digital photo at a higher resolution, then additional details probably can be seen in the photo -- sometime yes and sometimes no. But we won’t know until we have a chance to look. If you have access to a higher resolution photo and you would like me to try and zoom in etc. – please click on my name – that brings up my profile – and my e-mail address is the 3rd line down. I have already zoomed in on the 148kb or so photo and it is just not clear enough for me to make. If that is the best resolution we can have, I could play with it some more, but a higher resolution would save time and more likely produce positive results. As noted below – if you do not want the photo reposted by me – I will gladly honor that request.
If the photo of the fire truck was snagged from a posting on the internet – that is good to know also. In some cases if you know what site it was on you can back track and find out additional clues about the vehicle. For example yesterday when I did a search for Fire Truck Model T Ford 1923 1924 1925 1925 1927 looking for the truck you posted, I ran across what I thought was a great photo of a well loved/worn 1925 Ton Truck cab with just the “right sign” on the wooden running board. I would say it is “Worth a look” at: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/splattergraphics/3097758851/ . If you don’t have time to take a look at it – the answer to what was written on the sign is at the bottom of this entry. But I thought it was really good. And if it wasn’t copyrighted I would post it here.
Anyway below that photo are the clues that would be helpful in tracking down the owner of that Ton truck – i.e. where the photo was taken, who took the photo, when it was taken, etc. So if that type of information is listed for the fire truck that Bill wants additional information about – it could be very helpful.
Additionally Bill and/or you probably already know what type of fire truck the photo shows. I can see the inlets and outlets and would say it is a pumper, but which company produced that pumper might be helpful to locating it. I.e. that information could also be used in the web search. So if you know which company produced the fire truck please let us know that also.
Again, hopefully someone will recognize something about the original photo and be able to give you the clue(s) that will lead you to the owner of the truck. Barring some sort of catastrophic garage fire etc. that truck is still out there.
Caution off topic coming:
And the sign on the well worn 1925 Ton truck running board? It says “Touch all you want, You won’t hurt it.” Located at: http://www.flickriver.com/photos/splattergraphics/3097758851/
But it reminds me of the children’s book I used to read to my kids when they were little – “The Velveteen Rabbit.” Where the character Skin Horse describes how you know a child’s toy is well loved.
From the book:
"What is REAL?" the Velveteen Rabbit asked the Skin Horse one day. "Does it mean having things that buzz inside you and a stick-out handle?"
"Real isn't how you are made," said the Skin Horse. "It's a thing that happens to you. When a child loves you for a long, long time, not just to play with, but REALLY loves you, then you become Real."
"Does it hurt?" asked the Velveteen Rabbit.
"Sometimes," said the Skin Horse, for he was always truthful. "When you are Real you don't mind being hurt."
"It doesn't happen all at once," said the Skin Horse. "You become. It takes a long time. That's why it doesn't happen often to people who break easily, or have sharp edges, or who have to be carefully kept. Generally, by the time you are Real, most of your hair has been loved off, and your eyes drop out and you get loose in your joints and very shabby. But these things don't matter at all, because once you are Real you can't be ugly, except to people who don't understand. But once you are Real you can't become unreal again. It lasts for always."
Below is photo of me and my “Real 1915 Blackie”