Over Heating

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Dvis on Monday, October 07, 2013 - 03:32 pm:

Last week while enjoying one of the best T Tours, Texas T Party, I'm driving along enjoying ...and the 26 coil box lid came loose, shorting out the coils causing major miss firing. This went on till I could pull off and correct. After this. the firing was....not really correct....and after that I had major overheating. Haven't pulled things apart yet....but could this be a headgasket?? Z head and water pump....Royce, any thoughts?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Monday, October 07, 2013 - 08:46 pm:

Hi Jerry,

The gas I drained out of your carburetor was black and stinky. I wonder if you might have a sticking valve from the bad gas?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Ricks - Surf City on Monday, October 07, 2013 - 08:56 pm:

My guess, the loose lid could have messed up a coil.

How many disturbutors gave trouble on the tour this year?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Monday, October 07, 2013 - 09:45 pm:

Ralph,

As far as I know, there was no distributor trouble on the Texas T Party this year. The guy who burned out two 6V distributor coils at each of the past two Texas T Parties did not show up this time.

We had very few problems this year. My car was knocked out on Thursday by a bent rim after I went over some rail road tracks too fast.

Another car had a drain valve fall out of its carburetor, never to be found again.

One car lost a transmission drum, cracked and broken. He got the hard luck award.

Another car had slipping bands on reverse and low, and bad brakes. He had wood bands that looked fine through the access door, but would not grab. He said wood bands would not be in his car ever again.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Les Schubert on Monday, October 07, 2013 - 11:43 pm:

Interesting that the wooden bands couldn't be correctly adjusted. I, and many others, have used them for many years with no problems.

The cracked transmission drum; what type of bands were being used?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Tuesday, October 08, 2013 - 07:52 am:

Les,

I don't know, perhaps someone else does. I only saw the car on the trouble trailer. Never saw inside the transmission.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Dvis on Tuesday, October 08, 2013 - 08:27 am:

Royce, the car went from running so cool the red was not to be seen to boiling over on the return trip. What ever happened it happened in a space of a mile or two and while running. I'll be in to it this next week but.....what ever it was ...it was quick....


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Hal Davis-SE Georgia on Tuesday, October 08, 2013 - 12:32 pm:

I'm wondering about an obstruction in the cooling system. Maybe a big flake of rust that finally turned loose inside and plugged up a passage? Something like that.

I assume the belt was still on the water pump?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Tuesday, October 08, 2013 - 01:19 pm:

Things that would cause the engine to run hot may be:

Running the mixture too lean or maybe a partial blockage of the main jet.

Running with timing retarded.

Water level below the top of the radiator core.

Blockage of water flow.

Working the engine hard and low speed, in other words lugging the engine.

Restriction in the exhaust system.

Lack of air flow through the radiator.

Jim


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Bob Jablonski on Tuesday, October 08, 2013 - 01:22 pm:

Jerry:

The gas that was drained from your carb was black & stinky, per Royce ???

Was your gas tank innards coated with a sealer that doesn't stand up to ethanol treated gasoline ??

That coating turns to gunk and will really disable the carb , valves and piston rings.... a friend found out the hard way.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Royce in Dallas TX on Tuesday, October 08, 2013 - 02:23 pm:

It smelled like gas that's a couple years old. I would start by draining the carb and tank, maybe a rinse with some lacquer thinner, then some fresh gas.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jerry Dvis on Tuesday, October 08, 2013 - 09:52 pm:

Royce, Bob....When shutting down the engine I've always shut the gas line down and just let ole black spit and sputter it's way down till it quits. Usually with a spit and a bang or two. On mag of course. Where this stinky gas comes from....I dun-o. Will check it out. Years ago I loaded the gas tank with rocks, tied it to a tractor wheel and mowed the lawn. It's innards shown like a silver dollar. Lined it with who knows what....and used it ever since with no observed problem. Not saying the gas and or tank are perfect but....who knows. I'll tear into it tomorrow....You'll hear from me....

Good air flow through a good radiator and.....Hell, I don't know what happened but it did.


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