1912? well those parts you could count on one hand!!
I am far from knowing anything about early brass cars but weren't their fenders more flat? The fenders on the car listed look like my '22.
Henry started using those curved fenders in '17.
I thought it looked a little pricey. A nice machine but I'm waiting to win the lottery. It's on my bucket list.
For $50K you get plastic stop light, phillips head screws and end grain showing. Those look more like hickory spokes than oak; I sure hope so.
Looks like a 3D rendering or a scale model it is so clean.
Can anyone be bothered to ask them why it's listed as 1912 when the VIN quoted is 1924?
Doesn't it kinda' look a bit like Edsel's 1912 Speedster, but without the sharp windsplitter radiator?
Ethically, I believe somehow the potential buyers should be warned that the car they are bidding on is not as described. I see no difference in this (fraud?) as the prevalent custom of adding some GTO emblems to similar cars to make them appear to be more valuable 1967-69 Pontiac GTO's But how to warn a buyer?
I agree, it is fraudulent. Anyone know you get ebay to pull an item?
that should be 'know how you'....
Well I stuck my neck out and sent a message to Ebay to at least have the seller clarify the listing so someone does not get taken
Amazing what you can build today with a couple of catalogs and a few T PARTS.
Advertising by folks who don't know their stuff can be a great source of unintended humor. I love that it has oak spindles.
I don't think I love it for fifty grand, though.
That seat looks just like a fancy chair I had in my office, only wider. Herman Miller?
Ralph, would that make it a Miller equipped speedster?
Steve, "Advertising by folks who don't know their stuff " is what really does not worry me - it is deliberate? possible misrepresentation ? by what looks like a knowledgeable company in classic cars to sell a car to someone (possibly overseas) who does not know the history of the Model T Ford. We all agree that genuine, period correct pre 1915's? have a higher premium than say a 1923?
Don't assume malicious intent for things that can be ascribed to incompetence.
I know that there are well-informed sharpsters willing to misrepresent things to make a sale, and that may be the case here. But it's also possible that these are just general sales guys who don't know the product. Phrases like "oak spindles" and "remachined to run on unleaded fuel" spring directly from ignorance, whether there's intent to mislead or not.
Yes Steve, I should not be so concerned. After being burned maybe 8 times out of 100's of cars over 45 years that is not a bad average. I do remember though each and every one of those cars I bought in good faith only to see big flaws. I
maybe a bit too suspicious of some folks. It is a great looking car.
I messaged the seller and got the following reply:
Thank you for your well-informed comments. The car is on consignment with us and is titled as a 1912 Ford. Having said that, it is clearly not an authentic car and is assembled from may components. I have the same comments from a number of ebay visitors, but no complains have been filed. I will take the matter up with my consignor and we have no intention of being misleading.
Let's hope he adds some info so nobody gets suckered in - let's face it, no old car guy is going to pay that money, it would have to be what we call a 'mug punter'.
Mug punter. Brit slang for a customer or client that is easily swindled or cheated
I guess they know EXACTLY what they are doing even if they claim that they do not have an intensional of being misleading
I know that these guys are in NY but I wonder if they learned their double talk in Washington DC
Well the item is no longer available on Ebay as " the item is no longer available " A very nice looking car Hopefully it will go to a good home with a fair price
If they were asking $49,500 for that i should be able to sell my Fordor for at least $100,000.