Looking For My Grandfather '27 Tudor

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Simmons on Friday, October 11, 2013 - 10:14 pm:

My Grandfather, Ralph Simmons, was a Model T fanatic. I am 52, he passed last year at the ripe ole age of 95 years. Grandpa was always wrenching on a Model T and the last T he restored was a '27 Tudor. He sold it to a fella from Arizona in the late 1970's... I think around 1977.

I know this is totally a shot in the dark but I would really like to find my grandfathers '27 Tudor.

Any ideas on how I could find it?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mark Strange on Friday, October 11, 2013 - 10:16 pm:

You've taken a good first step by posting on this forum. If you're lucky, the fellow your grandfather sold the car to is still active in the hobby and reads this forum. Good luck!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Friday, October 11, 2013 - 10:22 pm:

Maybe if you could get someone from the Arizona DMV to do some kind of a computer search, your grandfather could be located as the seller, and the VIN # (engine #) established, and records might then show who the buyer was.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Simmons on Friday, October 11, 2013 - 10:31 pm:

I remember that Grandpa sold the Tudor and the guy drove away with it on a trailer. Then my grandparents found a problem with the cashiers check and jumped in their '77 Oldsmobile Omega and chased down the buyer.

Any and all help will be sincerely appreciated.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Terry Woods, Katy, Texas on Saturday, October 12, 2013 - 07:20 am:

Trouble with a cashier's check? The buyer wasn't Nigerian, was he?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Fred Dimock, Newfields NH, USA on Saturday, October 12, 2013 - 07:33 am:

John's question is like one that a person asked a few years ago - except for the bounced check. - on this forum.
It allowed me to connect with the grandson of the man that was the original owner of our model T
He visited us and got to drive his Grandfathers T
I might be overly sentimental but it makes me happy to know the vehicle can bring a connection to someone's roots
It certainly brings back memories of the times I worked on it with my dad

And the desire of my heart is that one of my granddaughters have the same feeling about the car!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Gary Schreiber- Santa Isabel Ecuador on Saturday, October 12, 2013 - 08:24 am:

You can put a stop payment on a cashiers check, I have. We bought a 61 VW single cab out of Cali and sent a cashiers check. Further communication, the seller decided he wasn't going to include the engine. He had the check but I stopped payment at my bank.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By David Kriegel on Saturday, October 12, 2013 - 02:59 pm:

Just a thought, if you have any PICTURES of the Model T you could post some her. They need to be sized down to (200kb?) this would help


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Simmons on Saturday, October 12, 2013 - 06:28 pm:

Pictures.... here ya go!

http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/lakeroadster/Family%20ALbum/RWS1927Mode lTFordTudorSedanJune211977_zpsbd00451f.jpg

http://i645.photobucket.com/albums/uu176/lakeroadster/Family%20ALbum/RWS1927Mode lTFordTudorSedan_zpse01bd2cb.jpg


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Kelsey on Sunday, October 13, 2013 - 12:29 am:

John:

Do you know where it was made?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Jim Thode Chehalis Washington on Sunday, October 13, 2013 - 11:04 am:

Here are the photos:




Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Simmons on Sunday, October 13, 2013 - 09:57 pm:

Do you know where it was made....

My Grandfather lived in Ludlow Falls, Ohio. I was amazed at the time that somebody from Arizona would drive all the way to Ohio.... but that was back in the late '70's and I was a young long haired punk at the time :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John P. Steele, Montana on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 10:11 am:

John good luck on your quest. I found my dad's 1915 T roadster 25 years after he sold it and was able to buy it. I got a name an found the owner in the MTFCA membership directory. Your state motor vehicle department might be able to do a title search by name which might help find out who it was sold to. Do you have any pictures with the license plate number? Good luck!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Gumbinger, Kenosha, WI on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 10:40 am:

John - I notice that one picture shows a visor and the other one doesn't. Do you know if the visor was on the car when it was sold?

Considering that this car is a rather common '27 Tudor, are there any marks or other identifying things about the car that can help identify it? Do you know the engine and / or frame number?

Good luck!

Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John Simmons on Thursday, October 24, 2013 - 09:58 pm:

Thanks for all the support!

Yes, it had the sun visor when it was sold. I don't know the engine / frame number. I do know my Uncle did the upholstery and it was a gray color with stripes.

The paint was kind of semi-gloss because my grandfathers brother painted it and didn't know what he was doing when he painted it in high humidity Ohio summer weather. That's the only thing my grandfather regretted about his restoration of the tudor, the non-shiny paint.


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