OT - How many cubic inches would this engine be?

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 10:39 am:

This is the last six cylinder racer (that I'm aware of). The article says the racer will be shown at the Ford auto show display. However, the racer is wrecked during the same month, so isn't shown.

If the standard Ford six cylinder (Model K) has 4 1/4 by 4 1/2 bore and stroke, and was listed as a 405 cubic inch engine, would the 1907 racer be about 570 cubic inches?

Thanks,

Rob


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 10:44 am:

6.5"x6x6 cyl is a huge engine, 199 cu in per cylinder, 1194 cu in total :-O


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Lawrence Murray on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 10:49 am:

It would be around 1200 cu in.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Chuck Hoffman - Gold Country of Calif. on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 11:17 am:

1150 cu in KTA Cummins, 2100 hp 4000 ft/lbs torque.
Wonder how the Ford compares?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 07:59 pm:

Most 6-cylinder engines nowadays are about 3 liters. That engine had each cylinder displacing more than 3 liters!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John W. Oder - Houston, Texas on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 08:06 pm:

Yep: 6.5 squared X .7854 X 6 = 199.09 CID

A tiny bit smaller than the Wright Cyclone 1820 9 cyl. radial engine cylinder which was 6.125 X 6.875 and thus sported 202.57 CID in each cylinder


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 12:42 am:

Thanks guys. I needed the conversion for a video about the six cylinder racer I've been collecting stuff for.

If you have 11 minutes to waste, have at it (and enjoy),
Rob

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gurxfitnd9nvary/2013-10-14%2022.12.39.mov


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 01:29 am:

Very nice, Rob.

Thanks
-Keith


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Stan Howe Helena, Montana on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 01:45 am:

Interesting that the big 6 racer uses the same Buffalo carburetor that the later K used.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Doug Partington on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 04:35 am:

Great work Rob,many thank you's enjoyed it would love to drive the real thing. Doug


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dane Hawley Near Melbourne Australia on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 05:38 am:

A very good presentation, Rob. Clear and concise. Thanks for putting it together.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Roger Karlsson, southern Sweden on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 06:05 am:

I enjoyed the video, thanks :-)
There must be a way for you Rob to get access to view and get more photos of the remains of the 6 cylinder racer in storage at the Henry Ford museum..?


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Rob Heyen - Nebraska on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 11:22 am:

Stan,
I'm a little suspicious of the carburetor on the racer at The Henry Ford. I also wonder if that is really the 120 - 150 horsepower engine the racer had by 1908/1909. It appears to be the racer, or what was left of the racer Frank Kulick wrecked in October 1907, possibly with a Model K engine on it.

I like Roger's suggestion that we get a close look at the racer in the future. Glenn Miller was kind enough to send photos of the racer in storage, and I'll post them in a new thread later.

I changed a few things on the video and sent it to youtube.
If anyone would like it, the links are below:

http://youtu.be/KltTI2L_MuE

Or new Dropbox link:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/t0zur4684anpx1c/2013-10-15%2009.26.06.mov


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