Got it out of the rafters,...

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Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Shawn Hayward on Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 11:01 pm:

I still have not identified the make of this body , but I am starting to re assemble it
any info helps..
thanks











Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thomas Mullin on Wednesday, October 16, 2013 - 11:57 pm:

Looks a bit like a Faultless Ford race car body.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 01:25 am:

I am glad to see that car being worked on! I do not think it is a Faultless, but since I have already said that I don't know what it is, I would be willing to entertain any ideas.
Great car. Great history. Do it proud.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By R. S. Cruickshank on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 01:39 am:

Faultless bodies are usually a boat tail. I think Mercury has the cut-off body.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Seth from NC on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 10:10 am:

That big, deep cowl looks kind of like an Ames.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Donnie Brown on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 03:17 pm:

Hi; Can you post some more pics. Maybe a side view with everything in position. I have not tried the want ads yet, but does anyone have a original speedster body for sale or trade. I have a very nice racing chassis but no body. If I have to build one Im going to do the canvas type body, but it would be nice to find a old survivor body instead. Any condition. And Shawn... Im jealous, I want your speedster body... Nice find...


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Wayne Sheldon, Grass Valley, CA on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 05:43 pm:

Shawn needs to retell the tale behind this car for those that do not remember it from before. And yes, more and better pictures may help.
Ames did build something very similar to this. Champion also built something very close about 1918 (I had a 1919 Champion boat-tail years ago) It has been suggested that my current boat-tail may also be a Champion. However, there is enough difference between the two and my other one looks a bit more like the original pictures said to be Champion than my current one does. Friends have told me to just call my current one a Champion also, and I may. Eventually.



Unfortunately, the best photo I have currently available of the 1919 Champion boat-tail roadster I used to have. I wish I still had the car.

It would be wonderful if someone could find an identification for Shawn's car. I usually just call my current boat-tail the "not a Mercury".
I am gladdened to see Shawn's special car getting done.
Drive carefully, and enjoy, W2


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Shawn Hayward on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 09:06 pm:


behind the seat , "trunk" opens backwards


this is also where gas tank goes


clearer pic of seat space

it has what looks like a mounting bracket for a top as well as the clips for curtains or ??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Shawn Hayward on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 09:17 pm:

A review of the history on this car as it was passed down to me ,
My great uncle purchased it in Stoneham QC canada
in about 1917 ????
may have been later dad was born in 35

(it may have come from Maine USA as I have relatives there,)

I am told by my father ( the only surviving sibling)
that he remembers it as a 14 or 15 frame and drive line
It has 2 names painted on the back , ( I think a local garage )
it is green and very oxidized I read an article somewhere about a ford green in the teens ,
I have a set of white tires and tubes that are still on the rims and hold air from approximately 1919
my great uncle was killed in 1940 and my father does not ever remember the car out of the hay loft


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Bender Tulsa Oklahoma on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 10:51 am:

Shawn

your pictures are not showing much detail but I have been in contact with Larry Sigworth and he sent me an email with the following information. The ad contains specification that you could check and see if they are close to what you have but is to large to put here on the forum contact me and I will email it to you. tman1913@sbcglobal.net


"If the body was actually purchased in 1917 that severely limits the choices of commerically available brands that it might be. There were only about four companies building bodies in 1917: Paco, Auto Sheet Metal Co. Champion, and Moton & Brett. My guess is that if was commerically built it is a Champion Model E. The ad I have is from 1919 but Champoin started building bodies in 1915 or 16 so I think the Model E could have been built before 1919. Almost all the other speedster body building companies did not start production until 1919."


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Shawn Hayward on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 04:20 pm:

Mike
thanks for the article ,
I have been discussing the car with my father . trying to get a more accurate date, as well as a better description,
he remembers it having an earlier hood 14,15,16 ?

although he never saw it out of the barn ,
the Champion has similar features but a higher cowl an lower rear deck ,
I am going to take some pictures with measurements
as soon as I can get someone to help

thanks and hopefully will have new info soon


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Dennis Seth - Ohio on Sunday, October 20, 2013 - 07:11 am:

WOW! when I saw your pictures and the story where you found it in the rafters I ran out to the barn and looked in my rafters and the only thing I found was dust and bats!

Great family story please keep us posted.


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