Door check straps

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Model T Ford Forum: Forum 2013: Door check straps
Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 08:43 pm:

Hi Guys..

Newbie...16 touring restoration

Should the door check straps go inside the door panels and upholstery - i.e. be hidden, or should they be placed on the outside and show. I've ordered some from Lang's and they come with brass hardware (screws) so I'm thinking they must show???

Anyone have a photo?

Thanks,

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 09:05 pm:

If you are a purist:

The correct door check strap for 1916 is cotton webbing, not a leather strap that Lang's sells.

The webbing strap is nailed to the wood door and body frames, under the leatherette panels.

RV Anderson sells webbing door check straps.

If you are installing the leather straps, most folks put them on top of the leatherette panels so the screws show. For 1916, you may want to use brass screws and grommets, not the supplied nickel screws and grommets.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 09:08 pm:

I see that Lang's sells the webbing straps:

http://www.modeltford.com/item/3876WS.aspx


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 09:11 pm:

Thanks Erick...So on the outside with Brass hardware would appear to be a little sexier, but on the inside is correct.

Thanks again.

Michael


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 09:23 pm:

Inside is correct for webbing straps.

Earlier cars had leather straps. I've always seen them on the outside with grommets.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Mike Walker, NW AR on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 10:07 pm:

Erik -- That should be oval head screws with trim washers, not grommets. I know, picky, picky, picky. :-)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 10:12 pm:

Gee, I don't know. Mr. Regan calls them French head.....

Trim washers - I'll use that going forward.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Thomas Mullin on Friday, October 18, 2013 - 10:35 pm:

Erik, McFeelys calls them both Trim and Finishing Washers.

McFeely

As Mike said, oval head screws with either slots (US Made cars) or Robertson (Canada built cars)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By John F. Regan on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 02:46 am:

The only real difference between French Head and Oval Head brass screws is that the French Head specified they were polished brass. Both screws had the same mechanical specs as far as I could tell.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 04:21 am:

Any photos of the straps on the outside with brass hardware ??


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Larry Smith on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 10:32 am:

I believe the correct name for the washers is countersunk washers, available a most good hardware stores, along with the oval head slotted wood screws.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Erik Johnson on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 12:39 pm:

Oval head vs French head -

I was being facetious (I know they're the same).


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Harold Schwendeman - Sumner,WA on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 01:35 pm:

Hmmm,......My Dad used to call them "finishing washers". (???)


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 05:34 pm:



You aren't talking about Cup Washers are you.

If you are selling them you can call them whatever you want.

Rich

The lady at my hardware store likes to call them 10's.


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By michael grady on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 07:48 pm:

still looking for photos of the straps on the outside....thanks guys!


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Richard Eagle Ida Fls on Saturday, October 19, 2013 - 08:10 pm:



Sorry for the fuzzy pictures. Hope someone has some better ones. These are what I have on my '15, '09 and YPC Bus.

Rich


Top of pagePrevious messageNext messageBottom of page Link to this message  By Keith Townsend ; ^ ) Gresham, Orygun on Sunday, October 20, 2013 - 03:21 pm:

I used #8 for my door check straps on my 1911. The #10 just looked too big!

: ^ )


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